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#21 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted February 7 2021 - 8:26 AM

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i sent messages to most of the ones on ebay yesterday i think i will do it again if they don't bring it down


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#22 Offline Devi - Posted February 7 2021 - 8:36 AM

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Yes, maybe if we all make an effort it might get some attention.  I'm in!


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#23 Offline Spazmops - Posted February 7 2021 - 9:27 AM

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I very much doubt that etsy or ebay care. The laws surrounding the sale of ants are so little-known that they might not even consider it illegal activity. 


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#24 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted February 7 2021 - 9:30 AM

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hehehehehehehehehe muahahahahahaha *mischievous smile


i will just annoy the sellers until it all falls i can be very annoying


Edited by Antkeeper01, February 7 2021 - 9:30 AM.

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#25 Offline Vendayn - Posted February 7 2021 - 10:12 AM

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I very much doubt that etsy or ebay care. The laws surrounding the sale of ants are so little-known that they might not even consider it illegal activity. 

Ebay would know actually. I remember a few years back reading about how ebay had to take a lot of the illegal sellers down or change their rules or something. The sellers then just resort to labeling everything as "feeders" or something like that. Ebay knows, just don't care.

 

Dunno about etsy.


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#26 Offline Arthroverts - Posted February 7 2021 - 1:00 PM

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Welcome to the underground side of the invertebrate hobby, where unfortunately the vast majority of new species originate from.

 

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#27 Offline AntExpertofCourse - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:06 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

#28 Offline Devi - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:16 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

Horrific attitude.  

From what I've seen from ANTdrew on the forum, he isn't like that.  He more cares about the environment, and wants to mitigate illegal sellers.  If you don't know because you are new to the forum, illegal selling can spread invasives and be detramental to native ant species.  I'm sure most people on this forum would agree with me here.  In reporting illegal sellers, it helps the whole antkeeping hobby by lowering the number of illegally spread ants.  You're unfairly judging one of the top antkeepers on this website who cares about the overall experience people have as antkeepers.  I hope you'll be able to learn some stuff on this forum. SMH. 


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#29 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:18 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

this sounds like this person is actually one of the people selling ants on ebay. You don't know how much of a responsible and respectful keeper ANTdrew is. 


 

Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

Horrific attitude.  

From what I've seen from ANTdrew on the forum, he isn't like that.  He more cares about the environment, and wants to mitigate illegal sellers.  If you don't know because you are new to the forum, illegal selling can spread invasives and be detramental to native ant species.  I'm sure most people on this forum would agree with me here.  In reporting illegal sellers, it helps the whole antkeeping hobby by lowering the number of illegally spread ants.  SMH. 

 

yep, you posted first. thank you. and I posted another jsut in case they can see again.


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#30 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:20 PM

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AntExpertofCourse how could you think that antdrew is one of the kindest people on this forum


Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

like AntsandMore said it kind of sounds like you are an illegal seller or buyer


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#31 Offline gcsnelling - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:21 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

Sad, sad attitude. I agree this sounds like a seller trying to justify his illegal activities.


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#32 Offline Devi - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:24 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

Sad, sad attitude. I agree this sounds like a seller trying to justify his illegal activities.

 

Absolutely.  If it's any indication to me, I wouldn't advise buying from this seller.  He is either inexperienced, hence this being his first post on the forum, has no care what so ever about antkeeping ethics, or is toxic in general.  Sad that this is prevelent in the hobby, but I guess some people are always like this.  


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#33 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:24 PM

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AntexpertofCourse btw interstate selling without a permit is illegal


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#34 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:27 PM

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AntExpertofCourse how could you think that antdrew is one of the kindest people on this forum


Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

like AntsandMore said it kind of sounds like you are an illegal seller or buyer

lets be clear on this. what is the reason you think ANTdrew would think they are stealing his "business", when he only sells in his state, and illegal people are shipping and selling worldwide? also, why would you say snitch? this is all for a good cause like we explained. I'm really getting the feeling that this "AntExpert" is actually a Illegal seller or scammer "ofCourse" if you were an actual person who respects the hobby, you would be helping.


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#35 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:35 PM

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AntExpertofCourse how could you think that antdrew is one of the kindest people on this forum


Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.

No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

like AntsandMore said it kind of sounds like you are an illegal seller or buyer

lets be clear on this. what is the reason you think ANTdrew would think they are stealing his "business", when he only sells in his state, and illegal people are shipping and selling worldwide? also, why would you say snitch? this is all for a good cause like we explained. I'm really getting the feeling that this "AntExpert" is actually a Illegal seller or scammer "ofCourse" if you were an actual person who respects the hobby, you would be helping.

 

well said


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#36 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:44 PM

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Also, ebay. ebay is filled with overpriced, illegal insects. People are willing to ship almost any insect worldwide

 

Yeah some a-hole in New York sells a bunch of CA species and uses my pictures in his listings.


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#37 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:51 PM

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I was just trying to make a joke. Geez.
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#38 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 7 2021 - 2:53 PM

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Thank you. Not only are these vendors scummy and unscrupulous, they’re stealing my business.
Definitely not hand-made either.

ohhhhh, I didn't even remember seeing this, or I just thought it as a joke automatically lol


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#39 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 7 2021 - 3:01 PM

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I definitely don’t even think of my selling ants as a business. If you ask any people I’ve sold to on here, they’ll tell you I do it more to promote this wonderful hobby and a love of nature in general. I have a decently paying day job that is my actual business, for better or worse.
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#40 Offline Manitobant - Posted February 7 2021 - 3:07 PM

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Honestly this just sounds like Drew wants to take out another Ant seller because they are stealing “his business”.
This is actually a very disgusting way to try to take out the competition.
No I won’t help you snitch on another seller.

i think he literally just made an account to post this. Heck, I'm not pro native in the slightest and literally have a messor colony (don't attack me pls) and I agree with everything antdrew says. If you’re gonna sell illegal ants, which I don’t recommend, at least do it privately and not on a huge website where you will flood out the legit native sellers.

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