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#21 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:16 PM

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Linepithema do have flights :lol:  And why does that matter to you? If I remember every single ant has nuptials.

I thought that the alates don’t fly, the males just stay in the nest and mate with the female alates...


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#22 Offline Broncos - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:17 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much)

They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them
And then they will escape and murder any ant or easy prey they can find


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#23 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:19 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much)

They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them
And then they will escape and murder any ant or easy prey they can find


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I mean, they won’t always escape. Ant Invasion or AntsAustralia keeps them (or some other big youtube ant keeper) 


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#24 Offline Broncos - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:22 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much)

They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them
And then they will escape and murder any ant or easy prey they can find


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I mean, they won’t always escape. Ant Invasion or AntsAustralia keeps them (or some other big youtube ant keeper)
Ants Australia kept them in a secure custom nest where it is nearly impossible to escape. There wasn’t any attachment. Just keep dorymyrmex or tetromorium. No one likes Argentine ants because they have such a large negative effect on the environment. And they will escape.

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#25 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:22 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much) 


They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them

That would be extremely hard to manage. Even if they don't escape, which is unlikely, with dozens of queens they will grow into the tens and hundreds of thousands. I don't think you realize how much food and space a colony like that requires. 


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#26 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:28 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much) 


They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them

That would be extremely hard to manage. Even if they don't escape, which is unlikely, with dozens of queens they will grow into the tens and hundreds of thousands. I don't think you realize how much food and space a colony like that requires. 

 

I wouldn’t really add queens to the colony, just whatever workers I can find around. I also would be feeding off some of the ants to my blind snake, because I don’t like feeding ants from outside where they could be toxic in some way, or any of my colonies (prenolepis imparis and tetramorium). 


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#27 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 30 2020 - 2:44 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much) 


They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them

Did you see that on Aus Ants? 


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#28 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 30 2020 - 3:01 PM

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Honestly idek why I want them. I’ve tried flipping rocks, to no avail. If anyone really could ship me a colony I would pay shipping and some for the colony (but not too much) 


They are invasive, kill native ants, and frankly annoying and boring. Not judging, but their are soooo many cooler ants in CA.

Yep, I know, but you can combine wild ants with the colony and I would like to keep a huge supercolony of them

Did you see that on Aus Ants? 

 

I'm guessing so. If you just want a huge colony of ants, I guess argies would be the ideal candidate. Just keep them secure.


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#29 Offline Dry_Twig - Posted July 30 2020 - 3:05 PM

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After a while, won't they stop accepting new workers/queens since they've been developing a separate colony smell? Or are argentines not like that?


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#30 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 30 2020 - 3:19 PM

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After a while, won't they stop accepting new workers/queens since they've been developing a separate colony smell? Or are argentines not like that?

All invasive Argentines have similar genetics, and therefore naturally produce similar pheromones, so they can't really 'develop' different pheromones.


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#31 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:21 PM

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I don't think argentines could escape a tar heel ants nest. Even my tapinoma melanocephalum had a hard time with one of those.

#32 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:31 PM

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If anyone finds a colony of these I'll pay around 15 bucks for a queen and some workers. I'll also pay up to 10 dollars for shipping. I think that is the best offer you'll get, barely anyone wants Argentine ants lol

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#33 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:49 PM

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If anyone finds a colony of these I'll pay around 15 bucks for a queen and some workers. I'll also pay up to 10 dollars for shipping. I think that is the best offer you'll get, barely anyone wants Argentine ants lol

that's probably the most anyone has ever offered for L. humile :lol:


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#34 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:51 PM

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After a while, won't they stop accepting new workers/queens since they've been developing a separate colony smell? Or are argentines not like that?

All invasive Argentines have similar genetics, and therefore naturally produce similar pheromones, so they can't really 'develop' different pheromones.

 

Fun fact, not all invasive pops have the same genetics. There are odd groups that pop up here and there, and populations descended from different founding colonies will fight. We had 2 colonies of argentines fight in one particular spot every year at my school.


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#35 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:52 PM

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If anyone finds a colony of these I'll pay around 15 bucks for a queen and some workers. I'll also pay up to 10 dollars for shipping. I think that is the best offer you'll get, barely anyone wants Argentine ants lol

Anybody who is selling them would think they are getting 1 million more then they are actually worth.


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#36 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:52 PM

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I thought humile was everywhere in CA? Aren't there any just around you?


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#37 Offline Broncos - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:53 PM

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I personally don’t think anyone should sell or buy these. It’s a bad idea in every way. It doesn’t matter if they have nuptial flights or not. They aren’t going to fly in a formicarium unless you put them outside


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#38 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:53 PM

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I thought humile was everywhere in CA? Aren't there any just around you?

Well, there are areas without them. It's just hard to find those spots. There also may be habitats that argentines tend to avoid.


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#39 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 30 2020 - 4:55 PM

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I personally don’t think anyone should sell or buy these. It’s a bad idea in every way. It doesn’t matter if they have nuptial flights or not. They aren’t going to fly in a formicarium unless you put them outside


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If they want argentines and can contain them, there's really nothing wrong with the idea. 



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They avoid dry areas. That’s the only spot Pogonomyrmex can catch a break... along with many other ant species


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