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looking for L. Humile in CA

Started By Swirlysnowflake , Jul 30 2020 10:49 AM

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#41 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:03 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


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#42 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:09 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest

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#43 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:11 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest

 

Maybe if you put a rock down some might come and nest under it? or get some honey and leave it on one of their trails, maybe a queen might come.


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#44 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:14 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest
Maybe if you put a rock down some might come and nest under it? or get some honey and leave it on one of their trails, maybe a queen might come.
I don't think the queen leaves the nest at all? Idk

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#45 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:16 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest
Maybe if you put a rock down some might come and nest under it? or get some honey and leave it on one of their trails, maybe a queen might come.
I don't think the queen leaves the nest at all? Idk

 

If they're anything like the invasive Nylanderia flavipes here I don't think they will care much. I actually found 3 queens just wandering around with some workers.


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#46 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:18 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest
Maybe if you put a rock down some might come and nest under it? or get some honey and leave it on one of their trails, maybe a queen might come.
I don't think the queen leaves the nest at all? Idk
If they're anything like the invasive Nylanderia flavipes here I don't think they will care much. I actually found 3 queens just wandering around with some workers.
I'll try it :P

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#47 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 30 2020 - 5:27 PM

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But if you pay me 20 bucks I can go outside with a shovel


Rlly? O.o

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#48 Offline Broncos - Posted July 30 2020 - 9:39 PM

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But if you pay me 20 bucks I can go outside with a shovel

Rlly? O.o
Why Argentine ants tho? But when you find a nest you just dump water on it and the entire colony will rush up with brood workers and queens

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#49 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 31 2020 - 8:38 AM

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But if you pay me 20 bucks I can go outside with a shovel

Rlly? O.o
Why Argentine ants tho? But when you find a nest you just dump water on it and the entire colony will rush up with brood workers and queens
The thing is I can’t find any nests. I see workers all the time tho. I need them to feed my blind snake lol
[/quote]Why Argentine ants tho? But when you find a nest you just dump water on it and the entire colony will rush up with brood workers and queens[/quote]The thing is I can’t find any nests. I see workers all the time tho. I need them to feed my blind snake lol

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#50 Offline JenC - Posted July 31 2020 - 1:41 PM

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#51 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted July 31 2020 - 1:41 PM

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Get a planter full of nice dirt and a plant. Water daily. You'll probably have argentines making a satellite nest in it. They tried that in my living room once.

 

But if you have them inside and a few escape and make it outside, you could easily have 26234111341 argentine friends coming back inside, since their trail making is pretty indiscriminate. You really don't want them anywhere near your normal ant colonies.

 

I found a dead argentine in an unused THA formicarium that I'd left on the floor. I have no idea how it even got in.


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Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

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#52 Offline Hayashi - Posted July 31 2020 - 2:15 PM

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I had a small Forelius pruinosus colony with about 10 workers in a tube and tub set up. Argentines got in a carried the queen and all her bebes away.

#53 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 31 2020 - 2:19 PM

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*sigh* So no one has any argentines?

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#54 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 31 2020 - 2:46 PM

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Did you try following the trails back to the nest?


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#55 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 31 2020 - 2:59 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest

 

If you can't find nests, then the invasion isn't complete, and could get worse. If a colony escaped you'd make it worse. 


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#56 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:23 PM

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Well if there are no argentines in your area then I suggest you keep it that way, honestly I would not even take the risk of them being able to escape.


I have seen the ants in my area, I just can't find their nest. Either they are underground in a park, or I just can't trace the ant back to it's nest

 

If you can't find nests, then the invasion isn't complete, and could get worse. If a colony escaped you'd make it worse. 

 

I often find nest entrances that lead underground, but I can’t start digging up Central Park in search of ants  :lol:


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#57 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:40 PM

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Just go to somewhere that snows. You won't really find any argentines there.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#58 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 31 2020 - 3:57 PM

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The males absolutely do fly, I have seen them in the thousands at lights. And yes the queens frequently will leave the nest sometimes to forage with the workers but more often when the colony relocates.


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#59 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 31 2020 - 4:44 PM

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The males absolutely do fly, I have seen them in the thousands at lights. And yes the queens frequently will leave the nest sometimes to forage with the workers but more often when the colony relocates.

Didn't know the queens forage. Makes sense, though.


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#60 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 31 2020 - 5:31 PM

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I've seen queens out and about eating honey and dog food. They're highly nomadic, I've seen them nest in all sorts of things, like pvc pipes, under cardboard, in gravel, etc.


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