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Ant ID (Camponotus us-ca02) (Hot Spring Canyon, CA) (4-6-2019)

Camponotus ocreatus Cleveland National Forest Orange County California dspdrew ant id

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#1 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 20 2013 - 12:25 PM

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Location:  Hot Spring Canyon, Cleveland National Forest, California
Habitat:  Open arid dirt, Oak forest
Coloration, hue and pattern:  Black head and upper thorax, dark orange lower thorax and gaster
Length:  18 mm (major)
Distinguishing characteristics:  Long appendages

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#2 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 20 2013 - 12:26 PM

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Camponotus ocreatus

 

We still  have no idea what these are.



#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted February 26 2014 - 12:09 AM

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Here are some better pictures I took of these.
 
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#4 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 5 2014 - 5:23 PM

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Here's pictures of a major I found in Menifee, California.
 
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#5 Offline NightsWebs - Posted September 4 2016 - 11:54 AM

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18MM that's huge! How awesome is that? Good pics too!


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#6 Offline gcsnelling - Posted September 4 2016 - 1:07 PM

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OMG ant on a pin not a point, what is the world coming to?



#7 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 4 2016 - 1:17 PM

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Haha, I did that so long ago. The things are so huge it hardly hurts any of the features.



#8 Offline dspdrew - Posted August 4 2018 - 7:06 AM

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So after looking at AntWeb, I'm pretty sure now that these are one of the unnamed species they have listed for California.

 

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I know color doesn't always mean much, but the color and the pattern is identical, along with everything else. The AntWeb specimen was found around 5000 ft, which is at the top of the range of elevation I have seen the ones I have posted here.

 

It also makes sense that these would be documented somewhere, as they are not uncommon around here. Before I noticed these on AntWeb, I really couldn't figure out how the ones I have posted could possibly not be mentioned anywhere.


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#9 Offline nurbs - Posted August 5 2018 - 3:08 PM

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So after looking at AntWeb, I'm pretty sure now that these are one of the unnamed species they have listed for California.

 

https://www.antweb.o...e=United States

 

I know color doesn't always mean much, but the color and the pattern is identical, along with everything else. The AntWeb specimen was found around 5000 ft, which is at the top of the range of elevation I have seen the ones I have posted here.

 

It also makes sense that these would be documented somewhere, as they are not uncommon around here. Before I noticed these on AntWeb, I really couldn't figure out how the ones I have posted could possibly not be mentioned anywhere.

 

We finally agree! These couldn't be C. ocreatus, though "ca02" doesn't sound all too interesting either. How about Camponotus californicus:D

 

Going through antweb species by species was also how I ID'ed C. maritimus, and this one matches up perfectly with what we have seen.

 

EDIT: The only difference I see with the specimens I have and also your images are the legs. The ones we have darken towards the tip, whereas the specimen on Antweb does not. But again, as we all know, coloring is not the best way to ID, but this is without a doubt the closest we have.


Edited by nurbs, August 5 2018 - 3:18 PM.

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#10 Offline Zeiss - Posted August 5 2018 - 3:43 PM

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Let's name it something else than that, there are already a lot of californicus.  Camponotus formicultus, haha.


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#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted August 5 2018 - 5:04 PM

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Anyone who knows me well, would know how much I love the name ca02. Ever seen the names of my formicariums?

 

I think I'm going to take newer, better microscope pictures with my new camera and focus stack them, which I didn't do at the time I took these.


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#12 Offline Zeiss - Posted August 5 2018 - 5:05 PM

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Anyone who knows me well, would know how much I love the name ca02. Ever seen the names of my formicariums?

ca02drew is your new name.


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#13 Offline KBant - Posted August 5 2018 - 7:01 PM

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what a jawline 


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#14 Offline LC3 - Posted August 6 2018 - 2:08 AM

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Camponotus ca-ii

#15 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 6 2019 - 10:23 AM

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We finally saw a nuptial flight of this species and collected a lot of queens. I figured I would post some new information here.

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection:  San Juan Loop Trail, Cleveland National Forest, California
2. Date of collection:  4-1-2019
3. Habitat of collection:  Chaparral
4. Length (from head to gaster): 18 mm (queen)
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Queen: Black head and thorax, dark orange gaster, some with slightly striped black and orange gasters
6. Distinguishing characteristics:  Fairly matte
7. Distinguishing behavior:
8. Nest description: 

9. Nuptial flight time and date:  9:00 PM 4-1-2019

 

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MaKe A jOuRnAL!!!

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