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Antcatcherpro3's Leopard gecko


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#21 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 15 2021 - 1:44 PM

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Not to pile on but...


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Veromessor pergandei- 3 queens 50ish workers and brood

Veromessor andrei

Myrmecocystus testaceus

Crematogaster sp. 

C. baldies a.k.a bald fraggles a.k.a C. absquatulator

Hypoponera opaciceps

Brachymyrmex patagonicus

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#22 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 15 2021 - 3:19 PM

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I get it! Sand is not good for geckos. I said I Will, change the substrate to a rocky ground, but in between the rocks, will be sand. Not enough to impact a gecko.



#23 Offline Spazmops - Posted March 15 2021 - 4:15 PM

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It's not like they have to swallow a bucket of it. If you're dead-set on something naturalistic, try purely slate.


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#24 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted March 15 2021 - 5:02 PM

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I get it! Sand is not good for geckos. I said I Will, change the substrate to a rocky ground, but in between the rocks, will be sand. Not enough to impact a gecko.

Why still include the sand? Might as well just make it as safe as possible


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#25 Offline antsandmore - Posted March 15 2021 - 5:55 PM

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the best substrate option is actually not using any at all, and instead using a carpet or paper towel for them. easy to clean, no impaction, great. you need to change the substrate quickly before your gecko gets sick.

Not to be 'that guy', but reptile carpet and paper towel is still substrate  :lol: Regardless, you're definitely correct. My favorite is Duck brand smooth top non-adhesive cabinet liner, as it doesn't harbor as much bacteria as reptile carpet and their nails can't get caught on it. It's also safe to put in the washing machine. Here's what I use.

 

ah yes. I guess I messed up on that part lol... thanks for the reminder.


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#26 Offline StrickyAnts - Posted March 15 2021 - 8:26 PM

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Not to pile on but...

goherping is a horrible source fyi


also, sand and topsoil 50/50 is perfect. Just stay away from calicisand. With perfect husbandry they will not get impacted. 



#27 Offline StrickyAnts - Posted March 15 2021 - 8:27 PM

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the best substrate option is actually not using any at all, and instead using a carpet or paper towel for them. easy to clean, no impaction, great. you need to change the substrate quickly before your gecko gets sick.

Not to be 'that guy', but reptile carpet and paper towel is still substrate  :lol: Regardless, you're definitely correct. My favorite is Duck brand smooth top non-adhesive cabinet liner, as it doesn't harbor as much bacteria as reptile carpet and their nails can't get caught on it. It's also safe to put in the washing machine. Here's what I use.

 

agreed, tho reptile carpet can rip their toes out



#28 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 1:30 AM

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I know what her substrate should look like. I will upload more pics when I'm done with it.



#29 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:29 AM

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Not to pile on but...

goherping is a horrible source fyi


also, sand and topsoil 50/50 is perfect. Just stay away from calicisand. With perfect husbandry they will not get impacted. 

 

Replace the sand in that mix with clay, and it’s ok, but not ideal. Stay away from sands of all types. It’s not in their natural environment. Used to have a friend who had a leo, kept it on sand. It got impacted, stopped eating, and died. Do what’s best for your gecko, not what looks best for you.

I don’t see any benefits that could possibly arise from using sand, other than aesthetics. 


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#30 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:32 AM

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I think I will use coco fiber, is that good? (also my geckos name is coconut....so coco fiber would match her name.)



#31 Offline Spazmops - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:37 AM

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Coco fiber's a bit better, but it can still lead to impaction. The best substrates would be paper towel, slate, tiles, and shelf liner. This isn't really a reptile forum though. Try joining a reptile forum/discord like OurReptileForum.com or The Menagerie


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1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 


#32 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:40 AM

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I want it to look like the geckos natural environment, so I will use coco fiber with some big flat rocks to block of some of the substrate.


Like on top of the substrate.


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#33 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:41 AM

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I want it to look like the geckos natural environment, so I will use coco fiber with some big flat rocks to block of some of the substrate.


Like on top of the substrate.

It’s better than sand at least. Coco fiber is easier to digest in case of accidental consumption.


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#34 Offline Spazmops - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:42 AM

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If you're using an under tank heater, it'd be best to skip the coco fiber layer for better heat transmission. 


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1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 


#35 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:45 AM

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I also never see my gecko lick anything, execpt for herself sometimes.


I think coco fiber is fine.



#36 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:47 AM

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I also never see my gecko lick anything, execpt for herself sometimes.


I think coco fiber is fine.

Geckos are crepuscular, so for one thing she is most likely asleep when you watch her (unless you observe her at dawn and dusk I guess). And there’s no way you could watch her every single moment of the day. 

May I ask, why do you want to use coco fiber? It’s hard to keep dry enough for a leopard gecko, and while it could work, just using tile is much safer.


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#37 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:54 AM

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I also never see my gecko lick anything, execpt for herself sometimes.


I think coco fiber is fine.

Geckos are crepuscular, so for one thing she is most likely asleep when you watch her (unless you observe her at dawn and dusk I guess). And there’s no way you could watch her every single moment of the day. 

May I ask, why do you want to use coco fiber? It’s hard to keep dry enough for a leopard gecko, and while it could work, just using tile is much safer.

 

I want to use something that looks natural. Like big flat rocks or something. Could I use that? Flat rocks.



#38 Offline Spazmops - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:56 AM

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Yes, that's what slate is. As long as it's thin enough to transmit heat well (if you're using a uth). 


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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 


#39 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:57 AM

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Then I could use that. Do they even sell them at pet stores? 



#40 Offline Spazmops - Posted March 16 2021 - 7:59 AM

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Depends on the store.


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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 





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