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SO! Odontomachus catching in California?


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#21 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 8 2021 - 7:11 PM

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ok, so if somebody finds workers, they collect 6-10 workers(if they're lucky) and sends them to people who study them. Then, if I were to find them, I would walk away from their nest in pain lol. and in that case, i would be super motivated to get a ppq permit, or dig them up and keep them. And i know people are going to hate me for doing that, and maybe that would be illegal and i shouldn't do it even if i find them... man, i really am a bad listener


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#22 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted January 8 2021 - 7:22 PM

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ok, so if somebody finds workers, they collect 6-10 workers(if they're lucky) and sends them to people who study them. Then, if I were to find them, I would walk away from their nest in pain lol. and in that case, i would be super motivated to get a ppq permit, or dig them up and keep them. And i know people are going to hate me for doing that, and maybe that would be illegal and i shouldn't do it even if i find them... man, i really am a bad listener

Noo don’t dig them up! Get a permit! If you dig it up you may be eliminating the chance of Odontomachus being established in CA. If you leave this theoretical colony there, they might continue to spread farther into CA. 


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#23 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 8 2021 - 7:43 PM

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ok, so if somebody finds workers, they collect 6-10 workers(if they're lucky) and sends them to people who study them. Then, if I were to find them, I would walk away from their nest in pain lol. and in that case, i would be super motivated to get a ppq permit, or dig them up and keep them. And i know people are going to hate me for doing that, and maybe that would be illegal and i shouldn't do it even if i find them... man, i really am a bad listener

Noo don’t dig them up! Get a permit! If you dig it up you may be eliminating the chance of Odontomachus being established in CA. If you leave this theoretical colony there, they might continue to spread farther into CA. 

 

Sorry to dash hopes, but that's hardly going to happen. If conditions were good for Odontomachus to spread further in here, they would have done so long ago. Unless they get introduced to an area where they arent hemmed in by natural borders, the most Odontomachus we'll get is whatever tiny population may or may not be on our border.


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#24 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted January 8 2021 - 7:51 PM

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ok, so if somebody finds workers, they collect 6-10 workers(if they're lucky) and sends them to people who study them. Then, if I were to find them, I would walk away from their nest in pain lol. and in that case, i would be super motivated to get a ppq permit, or dig them up and keep them. And i know people are going to hate me for doing that, and maybe that would be illegal and i shouldn't do it even if i find them... man, i really am a bad listener

Noo don’t dig them up! Get a permit! If you dig it up you may be eliminating the chance of Odontomachus being established in CA. If you leave this theoretical colony there, they might continue to spread farther into CA. 

 

Sorry to dash hopes, but that's hardly going to happen. If conditions were good for Odontomachus to spread further in here, they would have done so long ago. Unless they get introduced to an area where they arent hemmed in by natural borders, the most Odontomachus we'll get is whatever tiny population may or may not be on our border.

 

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#25 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 9 2021 - 12:06 PM

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wait. so dig them up or don't dig them up? looool sorry


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#26 Offline Zeiss - Posted January 9 2021 - 12:17 PM

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No, you don't dig them up.



#27 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 9 2021 - 12:30 PM

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you know what, i'll just get a permit


what are the biggest Species in the US?


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#28 Offline Aaron567 - Posted January 9 2021 - 12:53 PM

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you know what, i'll just get a permit


what are the biggest Species in the US?

 

Either O. desertorum or O. haematodus or both, they're pretty darn close. 


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#29 Offline Vendayn - Posted January 9 2021 - 12:56 PM

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Besides the area potentially being destroyed for habitation by them by construction...

 

There is also that the climate has been changing quite quickly. If they were already barely able to thrive (and sounds like they barely were, while rare to encounter, seems like they were still pretty limited in expansion), then that would have a big effect on them still being around as well. 


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#30 Offline antsandmore - Posted January 11 2021 - 10:36 AM

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i thought about this, but forgot to post. What if I encounter a nuptial flight?(i know that's a very low chance but still) should I collect as many queens as I can and send them to myrmecologists or antwiki(idk) if they die? or would that also be a nono? thanks everyone for helping me with this topic and not being frustrated!


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#31 Offline Reign_Of_Rage - Posted May 3 2021 - 8:43 PM

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i thought about this, but forgot to post. What if I encounter a nuptial flight?(i know that's a very low chance but still) should I collect as many queens as I can and send them to myrmecologists or antwiki(idk) if they die? or would that also be a nono? thanks everyone for helping me with this topic and not being frustrated!

Collecting a single queen for a specimen would be okay, but if they are here, like what people have been saying, they are struggling. Taking as many reproductives out of a population is not the right thing to do.


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i thought about this, but forgot to post. What if I encounter a nuptial flight?(i know that's a very low chance but still) should I collect as many queens as I can and send them to myrmecologists or antwiki(idk) if they die? or would that also be a nono? thanks everyone for helping me with this topic and not being frustrated!

Collecting a single queen for a specimen would be okay, but if they are here, like what people have been saying, they are struggling. Taking as many reproductives out of a population is not the right thing to do.

 

Not the worst necropost I have seen.


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