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[KitsAntVa]

that design sounds good just curious, how large do novomessor colonies get?
also, if kitsantsva is getting them illegally, they know the risks and they know they’ll get fined or whatever if caught. let them do whatever they want, in the end its their problem

I believe in the thousands which is crazy for how big they are and especially for how fast they grow

Edit, why such small words ;(
New edit: Nvm.

Edited by KitsAntVa, November 12 2020 - 12:06 PM.

[Ants_Dakota]

 

please do not take this judgmentally, but it makes things really not sound good when you don't reveal if you have a permit. all you would need to do is say you have a permit, and it would be legal. all i are trying to do is keep antkeeping as lawful and enjoyable as i can, so we can continue our hobby in peace. not to mention try to get prenolepis imparis legal to ship faster. again, i am not trying to be judgemental or busting into your privacy, but as your antkeeping friend, please don't do anything illegal. 
Ants_Dakota

Uwu

-Kit

on a better note, that design you are talking about is similar to what i am designing with the AntsDakota Desktop.

The phalanx? Glad to hear ants Dakota is still working hard. I forgot to say, I resign from nest making. Sorry because of the virus and moving I cannot make them anymore.

 

well, the connect-ability of nests specifically. my nests will feature the ability to expand the formicarium without having to replace the outworld. i am not working on them super hard right now, because of the cold temps and my supplies are outside, but i am still planning and measuring.

[Swirlysnowflake]

 

that design sounds good just curious, how large do novomessor colonies get? 
also, if kitsantsva is getting them illegally, they know the risks and they know they’ll get fined or whatever if caught. let them do whatever they want, in the end its their problem

I believe in the thousands which is crazy for how big they are and especially for how fast they grow

 

woahhh i need to get my hands on these... i like how spiny they look lol. make a journal whenever u get them

[KitsAntVa]

that design sounds good just curious, how large do novomessor colonies get? 
also, if kitsantsva is getting them illegally, they know the risks and they know they’ll get fined or whatever if caught. let them do whatever they want, in the end its their problem

I believe in the thousands which is crazy for how big they are and especially for how fast they grow

woahhh i need to get my hands on these... i like how spiny they look lol. make a journal whenever u get them

I plan on it and I also plan on getting approved for honeypots but not anytime soon so I can also keep those desert ants. Then one day the Pogonomyrmex will come back. Long live the Pogonomyrmex.

[Swirlysnowflake]

 

 

 

that design sounds good just curious, how large do novomessor colonies get? 
also, if kitsantsva is getting them illegally, they know the risks and they know they’ll get fined or whatever if caught. let them do whatever they want, in the end its their problem

I believe in the thousands which is crazy for how big they are and especially for how fast they grow

woahhh i need to get my hands on these... i like how spiny they look lol. make a journal whenever u get them

I plan on it and I also plan on getting approved for honeypots but not anytime soon so I can also keep those desert ants. Then one day the Pogonomyrmex will come back. Long live the Pogonomyrmex.

 

are hotpots not native to virginia? for some reason i thought they were all over the us, i really need to brush up on my knowledge of ant ranges lol

[KitsAntVa]

please do not take this judgmentally, but it makes things really not sound good when you don't reveal if you have a permit. all you would need to do is say you have a permit, and it would be legal. all i are trying to do is keep antkeeping as lawful and enjoyable as i can, so we can continue our hobby in peace. not to mention try to get prenolepis imparis legal to ship faster. again, i am not trying to be judgemental or busting into your privacy, but as your antkeeping friend, please don't do anything illegal. 
Ants_Dakota

Uwu
-Kit

on a better note, that design you are talking about is similar to what i am designing with the AntsDakota Desktop.

The phalanx? Glad to hear ants Dakota is still working hard. I forgot to say, I resign from nest making. Sorry because of the virus and moving I cannot make them anymore.

well, the connect-ability of nests specifically. my nests will feature the ability to expand the formicarium without having to replace the outworld. i am not working on them super hard right now, because of the cold temps and my supplies are outside, but i am still planning and measuring.

I really might like it then. I hate when some of my tarheelant nests I have to remove the out world basically removing the main part and just making them have to go somewhere else. Which sometimes kills them.

[KitsAntVa]

This topic became very popular during a couple hours....

[TennesseeAnts]

I already have many founding nests for these, but my ultimate plan will change the world! its basically just two phalanx with two sides connected to each other which allows around 200-300 ants I think to live in it. I plan on connecting more as time goes on because these are water tower gals so what do you guys think?
Also i've been getting mixed messages, do they need hibernation or not ?

I really would not advise you go through with this. If you're caught the fine can be something like $5k. Not to mention the USDA is finally starting to trust us antkeepers with inter-state selling of ants (without needing permits that is). If you do for some reason decide to buy these ants, please, for the sake of all that is holy, don't get caught.

 

Edit: Also, just fyi, there's plenty of ants in VA that are very similar to Novomessor. The native Aphaenogaster are just as cool, and are legal to keep....

 

Edit #2: Here's a couple pictures of two ants. Can you tell which one's which?

 

 

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, November 12 2020 - 2:10 PM.

[Spazmops]

I wouldn't go through with this, but like Ant_Dude said don't get caught or you could potentially make the whole hobby look bad. Also, make sure you have the funds to pay the potential fine if you do go through with it.

Edit: If this is an illegal trade and you're under 18 make sure your parents know about it. If you are under 18 and get caught, they'll likely be the ones that have to pay the fine.

Edited by Spazmops, November 12 2020 - 2:14 PM.

[Ants_Dakota]

hey look! my name is in the title! 

[KitsAntVa]

YES! Just because that’s what happened in all the confusion.

[Ants_Dakota]

YES! Just because that’s what happened in all the confusion.

you are indeed correct, that was a lot of confusion

(are you trying to change the topic?)

anyway, what are we currently talking about?

[Swirlysnowflake]

 

I already have many founding nests for these, but my ultimate plan will change the world! its basically just two phalanx with two sides connected to each other which allows around 200-300 ants I think to live in it. I plan on connecting more as time goes on because these are water tower gals so what do you guys think?
Also i've been getting mixed messages, do they need hibernation or not ?

I really would not advise you go through with this. If you're caught the fine can be something like $5k. Not to mention the USDA is finally starting to trust us antkeepers with inter-state selling of ants (without needing permits that is). If you do for some reason decide to buy these ants, please, for the sake of all that is holy, don't get caught.

 

Edit: Also, just fyi, there's plenty of ants in VA that are very similar to Novomessor. The native Aphaenogaster are just as cool, and are legal to keep....

 

Edit #2: Here's a couple pictures of two ants. Can you tell which one's which?

 

 

 

the upper one’s novomessor isn't it? its more leggy and has that big spike (which is what i like about them) 

what ant is the lower one? it looks deceivingly similar.

[MinigunL5]

 

I already have many founding nests for these, but my ultimate plan will change the world! its basically just two phalanx with two sides connected to each other which allows around 200-300 ants I think to live in it. I plan on connecting more as time goes on because these are water tower gals so what do you guys think?
Also i've been getting mixed messages, do they need hibernation or not ?

I really would not advise you go through with this. If you're caught the fine can be something like $5k. Not to mention the USDA is finally starting to trust us antkeepers with inter-state selling of ants (without needing permits that is). If you do for some reason decide to buy these ants, please, for the sake of all that is holy, don't get caught.

 

Edit: Also, just fyi, there's plenty of ants in VA that are very similar to Novomessor. The native Aphaenogaster are just as cool, and are legal to keep....

 

Edit #2: Here's a couple pictures of two ants. Can you tell which one's which?

 

 

 

I thought the main reason for the lift on P. occidentalis was to make it easier from scientists who use them, not really for ant-keepers.

[Spazmops]

 

 

 

I thought the main reason for the lift on P. occidentalis was to make it easier from scientists who use them, not really for ant-keepers.

 

Either way I'm happy, those ants let me make back most of the money I spent on antkeeping supplies. But I think you're right, there's so few antkeepers that I'd be surprised if we got government recognition.

[Ants_Dakota]

 

 

 

 

I thought the main reason for the lift on P. occidentalis was to make it easier from scientists who use them, not really for ant-keepers.

 

Either way I'm happy, those ants let me make back most of the money I spent on antkeeping supplies. But I think you're right, there's so few antkeepers that I'd be surprised if we got government recognition.

 

sigh. well, all i hope is that we can get prenolepis imparis to be shipped. that would be awesome! they are such a cool species.

[Swirlysnowflake]

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the main reason for the lift on P. occidentalis was to make it easier from scientists who use them, not really for ant-keepers.

 

Either way I'm happy, those ants let me make back most of the money I spent on antkeeping supplies. But I think you're right, there's so few antkeepers that I'd be surprised if we got government recognition.

 

sigh. well, all i hope is that we can get prenolepis imparis to be shipped. that would be awesome! they are such a cool species.

 

they are? my colony is the most boring ants i have ever kept, all they do is sit. and be stubborn and not move out of their test tube no matter what i do and when i finally dump them they eat 3 of their workers and their 10 pupae out of stress. i didn’t know that was a thing ants do but i saw workers latching on to others and killing them. it was creepy lol

[Ants_Dakota]

well, they look cool, don't they? i always find smaller colonies way more fun than bigger colonies. and i always look up to a challenge. and honey pots in South Dakota? i'd take them any day!

[KitsAntVa]

I understand this also. There is no reason to further this. I’ve got all the comments unrelated to the topic anyway.