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A Warning to New AntKeepers Purchasing Pogonomyrmex occidentalis "colonies"


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#61 Offline soulsynapse - Posted August 22 2019 - 10:47 AM

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This is great, I'm happy that the description was changed and that the email was sent out to customers. Exactly what I would want to see from an established respected vender such as THA. I still don't like the idea of selling a queen with only boosted workers. However, at least now all the pertinent information needed to make an informed buying decision is there, and that's all that matters in the end. 

 

AFAIK, there are no colonies being sold with only boosted workers, all of them are being sold with their own brood minimum, correct?

 

I think the whole point of this is to get them out the door to people who are really excited about the new regulations. Anybody who care enough to wait can do so, says right there in the email.


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#62 Offline FSTP - Posted August 22 2019 - 10:59 AM

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This is great, I'm happy that the description was changed and that the email was sent out to customers. Exactly what I would want to see from an established respected vender such as THA. I still don't like the idea of selling a queen with only boosted workers. However, at least now all the pertinent information needed to make an informed buying decision is there, and that's all that matters in the end. 

 

AFAIK, there are no colonies being sold with only boosted workers, all of them are being sold with their own brood minimum, correct?

 

 

 

 

Correct, what I meant by only is that the only workers that are included are boosted workers. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


Edited by FSTP, August 22 2019 - 11:17 AM.


#63 Offline Apex - Posted August 26 2019 - 5:31 AM

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While brood boosting does help, it doesn't stop the queen from randomly dying at the founding stages in my experience. It simply helps her not have to lay as many eggs initially while awaiting for workers. I think genetics plays a huge part and brood boosting workers simply increase colony size but doesn't necessarily help increase the viability of her genetics


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#64 Offline Serafine - Posted August 26 2019 - 6:24 AM

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Even a single worker helps a lot in that it keeps the eggs away from the queen so she can't eat them. It will also feed the queen so she doesn't eat the eggs which helps as well.


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#65 Offline Rin - Posted October 23 2019 - 1:09 PM

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I have both the brood boosted colony and just the Queen. I must say the brood boosted colony has grown considerably. One worker died 3 were left. Now the colony is around 13 to 15. The queen alone doesn't have a worker yet maybe soon just not today.

#66 Offline Rin - Posted October 23 2019 - 1:12 PM

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I hope this works first pic I uploaded.Screenshot_2019-10-21-19-05-30_kindlephoto-847456528.png

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#67 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted October 23 2019 - 1:27 PM

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Mine are doing OK; they had a bunch of pupae that died in transit, and while the queen later produced a cluster of tiny larvae, the colony ate them as even with the heating cable, I just can't really get them hot enough to convince them not to prep for hibernation during Wisconsin's fall months.


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#68 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted October 26 2019 - 8:46 AM

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Mine died.

#69 Offline vtyler98 - Posted October 26 2019 - 4:46 PM

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Both of mine are doing great. One colony I have in a dirt setup, starting out with 4 workers and now has 15+. The second colony is in a fortress and was not a boosted colony but had 3 workers initially and now has 14 workers.


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#70 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 4:59 PM

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Okay, so let me get this straight, you can ship this ant species throughout the continental US without a permit?

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#71 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:05 PM

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Okay, so let me get this straight, you can ship this ant species throughout the continental US without a permit?

Yes.


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#72 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:08 PM

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I am working on exempting Trachymyrmex septontrialis as well. :)


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#73 Offline drtrmiller - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:10 PM

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I am working on exempting Trachymyrmex septontrialis as well. :)

 

Make sure you spell it properly in your petition to the gubmint: Trachymyrmex septentrionalis


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#74 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:10 PM

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Okay, so let me get this straight, you can ship this ant species throughout the continental US without a permit?

Yes.
cool, and I believe it is the only one, correct?

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#75 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:12 PM

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Okay, so let me get this straight, you can ship this ant species throughout the continental US without a permit?

Yes.
cool, and I believe it is the only one, correct?

 

Yes, it is.


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#76 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:12 PM

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Yay! I'm 1 for 2

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#77 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:16 PM

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Yay! I'm 1 for 2

I think Trachymyrmex septentrionalis Is native to Illinois.


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#78 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:19 PM

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It is, I checked
It's the northern most species of the Trachymyrmex tribe

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#79 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:20 PM

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So why trachymyrmex septentrionalis for a petition?


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#80 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:23 PM

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because it isin't a plant pest, in fact it's quite the opposite. Thus, it should be the same as Pogonomyrmex.

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