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#641 Offline AntsDakota - Posted January 6 2020 - 3:45 PM

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I wouldn't think it'd matter, as seeing all the other Pogonomyrmex species around.


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#642 Offline Josh.Antlover - Posted January 10 2020 - 6:30 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal

#643 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 10 2020 - 6:39 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal

I'm on the other side of Sac, in EDH. No it does not. I have huge amounts of argentines, but I have native species aplenty. Recently argentine populations have gone down, probably due to me destroying any nests I find.



#644 Online YsTheAnt - Posted January 10 2020 - 6:57 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal


Its never too late to find native ants! As long as you get away from developed areas, native ants will be present in abundance. Try a local forest or wilderness area :).

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#645 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 10 2020 - 7:04 PM

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Argentines out front, Hypoponera, Pseudomyrmex, Crematogaster, Veromessor, Stigmatomma, Solenopsis, Pheidole, and tons more out back.



#646 Offline EthanNgo678 - Posted January 10 2020 - 9:28 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal

Around 40 min west of that. 


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#647 Offline Josh.Antlover - Posted January 10 2020 - 10:50 PM

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So the best places to go when anting are like places that are a little far from where the houses are that contains mostly argentine ants like big parks, right?

#648 Online YsTheAnt - Posted January 11 2020 - 8:56 AM

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Yep, places without human development are where you want to go.
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#649 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 11 2020 - 11:45 AM

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So the best places to go when anting are like places that are a little far from where the houses are that contains mostly argentine ants like big parks, right?

mostly, but not always. developed areas can have surprising diversity.



#650 Offline AntsDakota - Posted January 11 2020 - 3:24 PM

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Argentines out front, Hypoponera, Pseudomyrmex, Crematogaster, Veromessor, Stigmatomma, Solenopsis, Pheidole, and tons more out back.

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#651 Offline Josh.Antlover - Posted January 11 2020 - 10:28 PM

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So the best places to go when anting are like places that are a little far from where the houses are that contains mostly argentine ants like big parks, right?

mostly, but not always. developed areas can have surprising diversity.


#652 Offline Josh.Antlover - Posted January 11 2020 - 10:30 PM

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Oh really? I guess I'm not looking around harder in my area. I hope I see some evidence of diversity around my town this coming spring/summer for nuptial flights. Thanks

#653 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted January 12 2020 - 1:29 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal

I'm on the other side of Sac, in EDH. No it does not. I have huge amounts of argentines, but I have native species aplenty. Recently argentine populations have gone down, probably due to me destroying any nests I find.

 

 

How do you destroy their nests? ETA I think their biggest nest is in the walls of the house so um... really dunno what to do about that.


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#654 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 12 2020 - 3:03 PM

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Hey guys anyone here live near Fairfield California?

Does seeing argentine ants in your area means that it’s too late to find native ants?

I’m in NorCal

I'm on the other side of Sac, in EDH. No it does not. I have huge amounts of argentines, but I have native species aplenty. Recently argentine populations have gone down, probably due to me destroying any nests I find.

 

 

How do you destroy their nests? ETA I think their biggest nest is in the walls of the house so um... really dunno what to do about that.

 

Here they nest under stones and other flat objects. You can stamp on the nest, sealing any tunnels and killing queens/brood. If you stamp hard enough, you can sometimes make the ants not nest there again. They argentines are still here, but avoid nesting near my house and other locations I hunt in. Still see em, but the natives can nest where the argentines can't.



#655 Online YsTheAnt - Posted January 12 2020 - 3:10 PM

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Baiting works well if you are persistent enough. Use a liquid bait killer right on top of the nest and replace as needed for 1-2 weeks or until all ants die.

Works great for killing argentines. I use a borax bait.

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#656 Offline AntsDakota - Posted January 12 2020 - 3:53 PM

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What about pouring gasoline on their nests?


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#657 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 12 2020 - 6:10 PM

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What about pouring gasoline on their nests?

Environmentally unsound. Gasoline kills everything. Event things you want to live.



#658 Offline JenC - Posted January 12 2020 - 8:11 PM

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can't wait for those Camponotus!
Current Colonies:
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3x Camponotus Clarithorax
4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
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1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
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#659 Offline AntsDakota - Posted January 13 2020 - 4:26 PM

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What about pouring gasoline on their nests?

Environmentally unsound. Gasoline kills everything. Event things you want to live.

But it's Argentines..... (jk I see your point.)


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#660 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted January 15 2020 - 11:47 AM

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Baiting works well if you are persistent enough. Use a liquid bait killer right on top of the nest and replace as needed for 1-2 weeks or until all ants die.

Works great for killing argentines. I use a borax bait.

 

Okay I might have to try that again. Last time we had a huge invasion from the wall, I tried liquid bait for about 2-3 days. Only a few went for the bait; the rest were busy exploring everywhere else, and there was no reduction in the ant incoming flow. Eventually a small application of Raid to the hole in the wall stopped them completely. I've seen them traveling into and out of exterior ventilation or other openings and the sheer size of the columns - stretching across the entirety of the yard to who-knows-where - and longevity - months on end - rendered me somewhat doubtful about using bait (though I did try laying some (different brand from the other) and did not see a decrease). I may need to try yet a third brand or something and the longer time frame of 2+ weeks (but sorry, if they are coming in they are getting Raided ... after I evacuate my colonies and isopods from the area).


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Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.





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