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#21 Offline SolenopsisKeeper- - Posted May 8 2022 - 8:07 AM

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Would love to see some sort of Psedumyrmex or Odonotmachus, but might be harder based on location. Where are you based?

#22 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 8 2022 - 9:20 AM

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Those are halfway hard to find in Wisconsin.
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#23 Offline SolenopsisKeeper- - Posted May 8 2022 - 10:36 AM

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Are they even in Wisconsin? I didn’t know where they were based.

Otherwise, maybe tetromorium?

How are they getting S. Xyloni in Wisconsin? Through partners??

#24 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted May 8 2022 - 11:09 AM

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Are they even in Wisconsin? I didn’t know where they were based.

Otherwise, maybe tetromorium?

How are they getting S. Xyloni in Wisconsin? Through partners??

Yeah tetras are invasive so it would be relatively hard to get a permit for tetras.


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#25 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted May 8 2022 - 11:12 AM

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My L. brevicornis arrived with 2 workers alive and 3 dead, overnight the last two died I partially blame myself for those two they enclosed one worker correctly  who decided to die after 2 days and the rest of the pupae they failed to eclose. Id give them a 7/10. Hopefully if I buy S. xyloni when they are in stock they arrive in better condition.


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#26 Offline SolenopsisKeeper- - Posted May 8 2022 - 12:49 PM

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Are they even in Wisconsin? I didn’t know where they were based.
Otherwise, maybe tetromorium?
How are they getting S. Xyloni in Wisconsin? Through partners??

Yeah tetras are invasive so it would be relatively hard to get a permit for tetras.
Thought they didn’t causes environmental damage, although I am probably wrong. How will they guarantee their S. Xyloni is actually S. Xyloni is my question. Not many differences between invicta, and they are microscopic for a 100% confirmation. This means you will have to put the workers under a microscope for every colony you send out. For queens you send out, it’s going to be an even bigger pain

#27 Offline NicholasP - Posted May 8 2022 - 9:13 PM

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Are they even in Wisconsin? I didn’t know where they were based.
Otherwise, maybe tetromorium?
How are they getting S. Xyloni in Wisconsin? Through partners??

Yeah tetras are invasive so it would be relatively hard to get a permit for tetras.
Thought they didn’t causes environmental damage, although I am probably wrong. How will they guarantee their S. Xyloni is actually S. Xyloni is my question. Not many differences between invicta, and they are microscopic for a 100% confirmation. This means you will have to put the workers under a microscope for every colony you send out. For queens you send out, it’s going to be an even bigger pain

 

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here but it's fairly easy to ID xyloni from invicta without a microscope. Xyloni are not invasive in a single part of the world. And for Tetramorium they are highly invasive, and I have seen the dangers they pose to the environment. Today I was in my backyard several immigrans colonies warming up and I saw one of the chasing away a Formica worker and some Lasius workers. So, they do damage to the environment. And by the way this is just one of several examples I've seen T. immigrans doing bad things.


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#28 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 9 2022 - 2:12 AM

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I’m fairly certain that Cheeto is probably collecting the xyloni in partnership with Stateside, most likely from areas in AZ that do not have invicta. Also, there is no way Anthony is going to misidentify a species for sale with all the expertise he has.
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#29 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted May 9 2022 - 3:35 AM

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I’m fairly certain that Cheeto is probably collecting the xyloni in partnership with Stateside, most likely from areas in AZ that do not have invicta. Also, there is no way Anthony is going to misidentify a species for sale with all the expertise he has.

Thanks, Antdrew. Spot on.

 

Anything sold on the site is confirmed. If I cannot be 100% certain of the species ID, I won't sell it. 

 

Would love to see some sort of Psedumyrmex or Odonotmachus, but might be harder based on location. Where are you based?

Eventually  :)


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#30 Offline United-Ants - Posted May 9 2022 - 7:28 AM

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I’m fairly certain that Cheeto is probably collecting the xyloni in partnership with Stateside, most likely from areas in AZ that do not have invicta. Also, there is no way Anthony is going to misidentify a species for sale with all the expertise he has.

Thanks, Antdrew. Spot on.

 

Anything sold on the site is confirmed. If I cannot be 100% certain of the species ID, I won't sell it. 

 

Would love to see some sort of Psedumyrmex or Odonotmachus, but might be harder based on location. Where are you based?

Eventually  :)

 

would like to see Atta texana Trachymyrmex septentrionalis Trachymyrmex Trachymyrmex arizonensis Camponotus castaneus and Formica pallidefulva available for the continental us



#31 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted May 9 2022 - 10:02 AM

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I’m fairly certain that Cheeto is probably collecting the xyloni in partnership with Stateside, most likely from areas in AZ that do not have invicta. Also, there is no way Anthony is going to misidentify a species for sale with all the expertise he has.

Thanks, Antdrew. Spot on.

 

Anything sold on the site is confirmed. If I cannot be 100% certain of the species ID, I won't sell it. 

 

Would love to see some sort of Psedumyrmex or Odonotmachus, but might be harder based on location. Where are you based?

Eventually  :)

 

would like to see Atta texana Trachymyrmex septentrionalis Trachymyrmex Trachymyrmex arizonensis Camponotus castaneus and Formica pallidefulva available for the continental us

 

Slow down there Leaf cutters are hard to get permits for just for personal use if they arent native to your state, but selling to all states is nearly impossible. AntsEmporium somehow managed to jump through all the hoops to get the ants. I've had an application for Acromyrmex Versicolor sitting on pending for 2 months and its just for personal use(they aren't native to my state. I'm just saying be patient.


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#32 Offline aznphenom - Posted May 9 2022 - 10:39 AM

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I’m fairly certain that Cheeto is probably collecting the xyloni in partnership with Stateside, most likely from areas in AZ that do not have invicta. Also, there is no way Anthony is going to misidentify a species for sale with all the expertise he has.

Thanks, Antdrew. Spot on.

 

Anything sold on the site is confirmed. If I cannot be 100% certain of the species ID, I won't sell it. 

 

Would love to see some sort of Psedumyrmex or Odonotmachus, but might be harder based on location. Where are you based?

Eventually  :)

 

would like to see Atta texana Trachymyrmex septentrionalis Trachymyrmex Trachymyrmex arizonensis Camponotus castaneus and Formica pallidefulva available for the continental us

 

Slow down there Leaf cutters are hard to get permits for just for personal use if they arent native to your state, but selling to all states is nearly impossible. AntsEmporium somehow managed to jump through all the hoops to get the ants. I've had an application for Acromyrmex Versicolor sitting on pending for 2 months and its just for personal use(they aren't native to my state. I'm just saying be patient.

 

Mine took 9 months


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wow i did not no that permits for leafcutters where so hard to get  and took so long



#34 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 9 2022 - 11:17 AM

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wow i did not no that permits for leafcutters where so hard to get  and took so long

Well they're one of the few commonly kept species that are blatantly obviously plant pests (for literally destroying plants for food, hence 'leaf cutter'), so the USDA is always wary of them.


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#35 Offline aznphenom - Posted May 9 2022 - 11:19 AM

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wow i did not no that permits for leafcutters where so hard to get  and took so long

"Hard" is subjective. Because that all comes down to your state. there's State and Federal Level. Long? absolutely, its the same for any non native species to your state. It will have to go through more steps, like the Containment Facility step, which is by far the longest step. Native species permits can take up to 80 days according to the APHIS site.

 

I am lucky to have some pretty cool permits but sourcing them is a whole different thing. No seller, rare, or a lot of $$$.


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#36 Offline United-Ants - Posted May 9 2022 - 11:24 AM

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wow i did not no that permits for leafcutters where so hard to get  and took so long

Well they're one of the few commonly kept species that are blatantly obviously plant pests (for literally destroying plants for food, hence 'leaf cutter'), so the USDA is always wary of them.

 

well that makes since  because they destroy food 


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#37 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted May 22 2022 - 1:45 PM

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Tapinoma sessile is now on the site! Formica montana and Lasius brevicornis also have more options in stock.


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#38 Online OiledOlives - Posted Yesterday, 3:56 PM

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Formisquarium bundles and more species now available, including Formica montana

 

I'd like to know what the people of formiculture want to see most in an ant store. Let me know!

Smaller worker ranges. 
Using Pheidole bicarinata as an example, 1-25, 26-100, and 100-500 are all massive jumps in colony sizes. There's a 2-4 generation difference between these options, which is absolutely insane. 


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