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What species of solenopsis

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#1 Offline Antmanboy - Posted March 24 2021 - 2:59 PM

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Hello I caught a fire ant queen 1 week ago and I'm trying to identify what species she is. I've cut down my choices to Solenopsis Geminata,Solenopsis Invicta or Solenopsis Xyloni she is about 8mm long and I found her in Converse,TX
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#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:10 PM

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That looks like a Camponotus queen, but I can't really tell with that video. Try to get a close up still-shot.


Edited by TennesseeAnts, March 24 2021 - 3:11 PM.

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#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:24 PM

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Lmao that's camponotus. Not even closely related to solenopsis.

#4 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:25 PM

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yeah that looks like a Camponotus decipiens queen to me


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#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:27 PM

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yeah that looks like a Camponotus decipiens queen to me

That's what I was going to suggest, but there are a few different Texan Camponotus (Myrmentoma) that look similar and I'm not familiar with, so I just left it at genus.



#6 Offline Chickalo - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:31 PM

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That's Camponotus, not Solenopsis.

Camponotus is in the subfamily Formicinae, and Solenopsis is in Myrmicinae.  I'm pretty sure all Formicidae has one segment between the gaster and thorax whilst Myrmicinae has two.


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#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 24 2021 - 3:36 PM

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That's Camponotus, not Solenopsis.

Camponotus is in the subfamily Formicinae, and Solenopsis is in Myrmicinae.  I'm pretty sure all Formicidae has one segment between the gaster and thorax whilst Myrmicinae has two.

 

 

Formicidae is the whole Family: All Ants

 

Formicinae is Formicine ants, and all of them do only have one petiole.


Edited by NickAnter, March 25 2021 - 6:42 AM.

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Lasius americanus

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#8 Offline Zeiss - Posted March 24 2021 - 7:31 PM

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This seems like Camponotus.  Getting an ID is easier when you follow proper ID Request formatting that is easily seen at the top of the Ant ID Request page.  Still images are also better than a video.  If you are using a phone, hold it 3-4 inches away from the subject and do not zoom too much since it will get grainy.

 

Also, you don't need to spam click the post button.  It will load the first time you click.


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#9 Offline Chickalo - Posted March 25 2021 - 4:16 AM

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That's Camponotus, not Solenopsis.

Camponotus is in the subfamily Formicinae, and Solenopsis is in Myrmicinae.  I'm pretty sure all Formicidae has one segment between the gaster and thorax whilst Myrmicinae has two.

:facepalm:

 

Formicidae is the whole Family: All Ants

 

Formicinae is Formicine ants, and all of them do only have one petiole.

 

it's autocorrect I swear, I know because I didn't know how to spell it so I literally searched up Camponotus sub family and copied and pasted lol


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#10 Online Kaelwizard - Posted March 25 2021 - 6:26 AM

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That's Camponotus, not Solenopsis.

Camponotus is in the subfamily Formicinae, and Solenopsis is in Myrmicinae.  I'm pretty sure all Formicidae has one segment between the gaster and thorax whilst Myrmicinae has two.

:facepalm:

 

Formicidae is the whole Family: All Ants

 

Formicinae is Formicine ants, and all of them do only have one petiole.

 

Seeing as he used the right word before (and he said it was autocorrect above), he clearly meant Formicinae the second time.

 

PS: The face palm emoji comes off as really rude.


Edited by Kaelwizard, March 25 2021 - 6:33 AM.


#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 25 2021 - 6:42 AM

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That's Camponotus, not Solenopsis.

Camponotus is in the subfamily Formicinae, and Solenopsis is in Myrmicinae.  I'm pretty sure all Formicidae has one segment between the gaster and thorax whilst Myrmicinae has two.

:facepalm:

 

Formicidae is the whole Family: All Ants

 

Formicinae is Formicine ants, and all of them do only have one petiole.

 

Seeing as he used the right word before (and he said it was autocorrect above), he clearly meant Formicinae the second time.

 

PS: The face palm emoji comes off as really rude.

 

Fixed. :)


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#12 Offline Antmanboy - Posted March 31 2021 - 3:46 PM

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Thank you I recently realized it was Camponotous and I forgot about this post. Thank you for all your help! Have a good day!
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#13 Offline JoeByron - Posted April 6 2021 - 11:37 PM

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Thank you I recently realized it was Camponotous and I forgot about this post. Thank you for all your help! Have a good day!

 

Doesnt matter that much about what specific species it is, YOU HAVE A QUEEN! and that exciting no matter what. 



#14 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted April 7 2021 - 3:13 AM

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It does kind of matter what species because some species have special needs like foods or other things, so I would ID any queen you find.


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#15 Online Kaelwizard - Posted April 7 2021 - 6:55 AM

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It does kind of matter what species because some species have special needs like foods or other things, so I would ID any queen you find.

Exactly. You wouldn't want to take care of an Atta queen like how you would take care of a Lasius queen or something. (I know that they are both pretty recognizable, just an example).


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#16 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted April 7 2021 - 7:28 AM

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Yep, this queen was ID'd though, so that's good. 



#17 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted April 7 2021 - 7:30 AM

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Even if you can't get an exact species, it's atleast good to get the Genus of it, which we already did.



#18 Offline PurdueEntomology - Posted April 7 2021 - 7:39 AM

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Thank you I recently realized it was Camponotous and I forgot about this post. Thank you for all your help! Have a good day!

I apologize for some of the dismissive and rather aggressive responses you got.  It is unfortunate some of the more advanced though not necessarily mature members of this forum could learn to guide and teach with greater sensitivity.


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