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adding a gender option?


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#1 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:00 PM

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hiii so i noticed that the gender options only include “male, female, or not telling” that doesn’t really represent some people who don’t align with male or female, so would it be possible to add another option as well? like “other”

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#2 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:14 PM

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There's already been a thread on this.

https://www.formicul...ings#entry81286


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#3 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:16 PM

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There's already been a thread on this.

https://www.formicul...ings#entry81286

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#4 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:28 PM

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well i mean it still hasn’t been changed... :P

i get that people don't think gender has anything to do on a forum with ants, but i don't think its a super hard change to make for dspdrew? (i might be wrong)

i just think it would be more representing 


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#5 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:38 PM

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well i mean it still hasn’t been changed... :P

i get that people don't think gender has anything to do on a forum with ants, but i don't think its a super hard change to make for dspdrew? (i might be wrong)

i just think it would be more representing 

If u want it to change then ask Drew instead of making a post about it  :facepalm:


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#6 Offline ZTYguy - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:41 PM

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Yeah I agree. Going to the source normally works best.


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#7 Offline Zeiss - Posted November 10 2020 - 8:45 PM

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If u want it to change then ask Drew instead of making a post about it  :facepalm:

This is the part of the forum where people make suggestions.


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#8 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted November 10 2020 - 9:18 PM

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If u want it to change then ask Drew instead of making a post about it  :facepalm:

This is the part of the forum where people make suggestions.

 

drtrmiller put it this way, "While it is critical to the continued growth of this community that we make every aspiring antkeeper feel welcome here, the reality is that these sorts of positive discussions and requests are likely to trigger some of our more sensitive members to post intolerant remarks, or to proceed to ask questions in bad faith, as evidenced by some of the responses thus far.  Consequently, it is probably best if requests of this type are directed to the forum admin dspdrew through private message, rather than put forth for public discussion."


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drtrmiller put it this way, "While it is critical to the continued growth of this community that we make every aspiring antkeeper feel welcome here, the reality is that these sorts of positive discussions and requests are likely to trigger some of our more sensitive members to post intolerant remarks, or to proceed to ask questions in bad faith, as evidenced by some of the responses thus far.  Consequently, it is probably best if requests of this type are directed to the forum admin dspdrew through private message, rather than put forth for public discussion."

Sure, but as a new member, Swirly most likely would not have come across the old discussion until she asked.  There's no need to say "If u want it to change then ask Drew instead of making a post about it   :facepalm:" since she would not have known beforehand.


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#10 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted November 11 2020 - 8:02 AM

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Just put it on your "about me" section if you care that much.


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#11 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 11 2020 - 8:05 AM

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I mean you guys didn’t have to shut them down immediately. It doesn’t really show the good side of this community.
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#12 Offline Manitobant - Posted November 11 2020 - 9:30 AM

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I'm not trying to be rude but formiculture is not a political forum and never will be.
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#13 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 11 2020 - 9:32 AM

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I'm not trying to be rude but formiculture is not a political forum and never will be.

This isn't about politics. It was just a request from them for a new gender option, and you guys shut them down.


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#14 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted November 11 2020 - 9:37 AM

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I'm not trying to be rude but formiculture is not a political forum and never will be.

but what i was saying has nothing to do with politics? idk lol


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#15 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 11 2020 - 9:37 AM

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I'm not trying to be rude but formiculture is not a political forum and never will be.

but what i was saying has nothing to do with politics? idk lol

 

My thoughts exactly.


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#16 Offline CasiahJade - Posted November 11 2020 - 10:09 PM

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So, I have some pretty severe gender dysphoria issues, I say this to present my bona fides as it were. Honestly, when I present contrary to my biological sex, I find it offensive when people are like "what _are_ you?" even if they are trying to be polite.  I never go for androgyny, I present as either male or female.

 

When staring at a list of "genders" (in quotations to notate a category, not to dismiss any potential inclusions to the category) it actually fills me with dread.  No longer am I selecting how I present, now I'm having to put a label on something.  And I feel like no matter what I choose I'm going to pick the wrong one.  On a forum, gender is just listed as short hand to communicate your pronouns, but in many ways it is irrelevant.  Now, I'm a netbaby technomancer, so I do honestly see people online more as their avatar and screen name.  @Kaelwizard is a moth mage. @Swirlysnowflake, you're an ant on a leaf, and we all love ants here.  Your gender isn't important to me, its our shared love of a hobby that matters.  I hope nobody cares about my gender here either.

 

I'd rather see the "gender" field eliminated than filled with more and more options, because really our gender is the least interesting thing about us.

 

Inclusion is about welcoming others and ignoring out differences.  Highlighting them, I think, only serves to divide.

 

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#17 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 5:03 AM

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If there was a other option I would pick it. BeCaUs3 ImA al31N


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We don’t talk about that

#18 Offline AleeGuy - Posted November 12 2020 - 6:40 AM

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If there was a other option I would pick it. BeCaUs3 ImA al31N

Nah I would say Attack Helicopter. Yea they should add other for other genders here, just text Drew about it, you choose other and it opens a text box and says type it here... or something like that
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#19 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 12 2020 - 6:48 AM

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If there was a other option I would pick it. BeCaUs3 ImA al31N

Nah I would say Attack Helicopter. 

:0 is dat even possible can i becomes da metal flying boy?


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#20 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 12 2020 - 7:04 AM

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this forum is about ants, not genders. i like what ddd101ddd said. if you really want to show your true identity, just put it in your about me section.


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