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#121 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 7 2020 - 2:34 PM

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The following applies to traders residing in the United States:[/size]
To commercially* import or export wildlife specimens across the U.S.A. national border you must get a permit from the US Fish and Wildlife agency. This license will cost you $100.00 annually. To apply for this permit you must obtain the 'Federal Fish and Wildlife License/Permit Application Form' (OMB No. 1018-0022). But that's not all...
Once you have the license you must declare the contents of each package that comes in or goes out using the 'Declaration for Importation or Exportation of Fish or Wildlife' form (USFWS Form 3-177). Each package declaration will cost you $55.00 to cover inspection costs. Depending on circumstances, for incoming packages, your local USFWS may want to inspect the package BEFORE you open it. So, don't open it until you check with them. They may want you to bring it unopened into their office for inspection. Ask your supplier to mail you a commercial invoice ahead of the package so that you can complete your declaration form ahead of time and mail it to the USFWS before the package arrives. Leave the 'Date of Import' field blank, since you will not know the exact date the package will arrive. A similar process is required when you are shipping a package out of the United States.
But before you place an order with a suppliers outside the USA, contact your local USFWS office (see link at bottom of this page for directory of offices by state) and ask them what paperwork may be required from THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. This is very important because there are some countries that you cannot import from legally, such as India. It depends on the agreements between the two countries.
Remember, you have to pay a flat fee of $55.00 per shipment, no matter how large or small your shipment is. Therefore the larger your order the more you will save per specimen on these inspection fees, whether you are importing or exporting.
You can download Form 3-177 from the USFWS web site:
http://www.fws.gov/
However, the annual Import/Export license is not available to download - you have to get one mailed to you. When you request it, ask for the whole kit. They will send you a large packet of information, including official regulations, lists of protected species in the U.S.A., a C.I.T.E.S. list, and more. While you're at it, ask them for a 'Credit Card Authorization Form' so you can pay your fees more easily.
Bottom line: If you are serious about importing or exporting insect specimens commercially and legally you must get in touch with your local USFWS office and get yourself set up with them. If you get set up with the proper protocol you will be ahead of the game, since a lot of traders are ignoring these laws and will eventually get caught.
To import/export live insect specimens across the U.S.A. national border, all of the above applies plus you must comply with USDA regulations as well. Contact the USDA for that information.


What I got from this is that you can actually buy from problem that have a permit not the other way around, well both you can buy from someone that has it and you can buy if you have it so anyone that has a permit on here you can basically buy from.
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#122 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 7 2020 - 2:38 PM

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... what?


Edited by Antkeeper01, October 7 2020 - 2:39 PM.

1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#123 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 7 2020 - 2:40 PM

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oh I for got to add this: Unfortunately, it is illegal to import ant and termite species from Canada to the United States without a license. US customers bear the following in mind before deciding to order. US customers must also email us proof of their permits if they are ordering directly, and not from any of the sources above.


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#124 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted October 8 2020 - 3:17 AM

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Nvm


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#125 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted October 8 2020 - 3:18 AM

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The following applies to traders residing in the United States:[/size]
To commercially* import or export wildlife specimens across the U.S.A. national border you must get a permit from the US Fish and Wildlife agency. This license will cost you $100.00 annually. To apply for this permit you must obtain the 'Federal Fish and Wildlife License/Permit Application Form' (OMB No. 1018-0022). But that's not all...
Once you have the license you must declare the contents of each package that comes in or goes out using the 'Declaration for Importation or Exportation of Fish or Wildlife' form (USFWS Form 3-177). Each package declaration will cost you $55.00 to cover inspection costs. Depending on circumstances, for incoming packages, your local USFWS may want to inspect the package BEFORE you open it. So, don't open it until you check with them. They may want you to bring it unopened into their office for inspection. Ask your supplier to mail you a commercial invoice ahead of the package so that you can complete your declaration form ahead of time and mail it to the USFWS before the package arrives. Leave the 'Date of Import' field blank, since you will not know the exact date the package will arrive. A similar process is required when you are shipping a package out of the United States.
But before you place an order with a suppliers outside the USA, contact your local USFWS office (see link at bottom of this page for directory of offices by state) and ask them what paperwork may be required from THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. This is very important because there are some countries that you cannot import from legally, such as India. It depends on the agreements between the two countries.
Remember, you have to pay a flat fee of $55.00 per shipment, no matter how large or small your shipment is. Therefore the larger your order the more you will save per specimen on these inspection fees, whether you are importing or exporting.
You can download Form 3-177 from the USFWS web site:
http://www.fws.gov/
However, the annual Import/Export license is not available to download - you have to get one mailed to you. When you request it, ask for the whole kit. They will send you a large packet of information, including official regulations, lists of protected species in the U.S.A., a C.I.T.E.S. list, and more. While you're at it, ask them for a 'Credit Card Authorization Form' so you can pay your fees more easily.
Bottom line: If you are serious about importing or exporting insect specimens commercially and legally you must get in touch with your local USFWS office and get yourself set up with them. If you get set up with the proper protocol you will be ahead of the game, since a lot of traders are ignoring these laws and will eventually get caught.
To import/export live insect specimens across the U.S.A. national border, all of the above applies plus you must comply with USDA regulations as well. Contact the USDA for that information.


What I got from this is that you can actually buy from problem that have a permit not the other way around, well both you can buy from someone that has it and you can buy if you have it so anyone that has a permit on here you can basically buy from.

 

If you also have a permit yes. If you don't have one you can't buy from someone who does I don't think.


Edited by Kaelwizard, October 8 2020 - 3:20 AM.


#126 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 8 2020 - 7:25 AM

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so yesterday I was looking for one of my pavement ant colonies and couldn't find it but later that night I found the container on the floor with sand everywhere but the lid had been on the day before, long story short I lost a colonyand the culprit is either my sister or my dog, and I have one colony left.


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Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#127 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 8 2020 - 7:33 AM

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so yesterday I was looking for one of my pavement ant colonies and couldn't find it but later that night I found the container on the floor with sand everywhere but the lid had been on the day before, long story short I lost a colonyand the culprit is either my sister or my dog, and I have one colony left.

oh man. that is too bad. they are really common, though, so you can find more next year, right?


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#128 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 8 2020 - 7:35 AM

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Definitely, you can catch 10 in one day even if your not looking. but that queen was my first to ever get workers. :(  :(


Edited by Antkeeper01, October 8 2020 - 7:36 AM.

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1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#129 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 8 2020 - 8:15 AM

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Definitely, you can catch 10 in one day even if your not looking. but that queen was my first to ever get workers. :(  :(

those always mean the most! i feel your loss.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#130 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 8 2020 - 8:35 AM

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I caught 15 this year and i wasn't even looking and it turns out when my family went in the backyard they literally stepped into a flight. 

 

Definitely, you can catch 10 in one day even if your not looking. but that queen was my first to ever get workers. :(  :(

Those are pretty important but what's really better is your first favorite ant queen getting workers.


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#131 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 8 2020 - 9:45 AM

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Definitely, you can catch 10 in one day even if your not looking. but that queen was my first to ever get workers. :(  :(

those always mean the most! i feel your loss.

 

Though she lost her first one because of me she got another.


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#132 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 11 2020 - 4:59 AM

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:(  :*( Sad and Happy update :) 

 

 

Queen Persephone 2020-2020 RIP

 

 

 

It turns out that I didn't lose the pavement ant colony I forgot where it was but now they are safe now.


Edited by Antkeeper01, October 11 2020 - 5:04 AM.

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#133 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 13 2020 - 9:27 AM

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also the infertile pheidole queen has recently died, but my new Aphenogaster .cf fulva queen may have a larva.


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#134 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 15 2020 - 10:16 AM

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Yeah my Aphaenogaster queen has 5 eggs now

:yahoo:  :yahoo:


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#135 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 15 2020 - 10:56 AM

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Yeah my Aphaenogaster queen has 5 eggs now

:yahoo:  :yahoo:

i have always wanted to catch an aphaenogaster queen. they never swarm around my house though. :(


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#136 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 15 2020 - 11:01 AM

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They are quite common where I live even the rare ones I could catch no problem but they usually don’t swarm and you will only find 2 or 3 in one year because they stay near the nest they came from.
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#137 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 15 2020 - 11:21 AM

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They are quite common where I live even the rare ones I could catch no problem but they usually don’t swarm and you will only find 2 or 3 in one year because they stay near the nest they came from.

if only i could trade you some lasius. we have so many...


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#138 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted October 15 2020 - 11:33 AM

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I think I’m a little bummed on Lasius and other ants in general right now because my Subbarbatus queen just got her antenna bit off :(
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#139 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 15 2020 - 2:08 PM

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Yeah my Aphaenogaster queen has 5 eggs now

:yahoo:  :yahoo:

i have always wanted to catch an aphaenogaster queen. they never swarm around my house though. :(

 

I just looked under a rock not expecting to find anything and then I find an aphaenogaster queen lol


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#140 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted October 15 2020 - 2:11 PM

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also RIP Queen Persephone 2020-2020


 

They are quite common where I live even the rare ones I could catch no problem but they usually don’t swarm and you will only find 2 or 3 in one year because they stay near the nest they came from.

if only i could trade you some lasius. we have so many...

 

if I could trade you some tetremorium for lasius.........


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