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#21 Offline Nanahira - Posted May 24 2020 - 11:02 AM

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All popular Youtube channels have something that stands them out from the rest. Antscanada's experiments and dramatization helps him control the algorithm to reach other audiences (which are mostly those who don't raise insects).

 

Remember he does this as his job, not as a non profit organization.


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#22 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 1:05 PM

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All popular Youtube channels have something that stands them out from the rest. Antscanada's experiments and dramatization helps him control the algorithm to reach other audiences (which are mostly those who don't raise insects).

 

Remember he does this as his job, not as a non profit organization.

Actually, I'm not sure it's his main source of income. He's actually a singer-songwriter, part-time actor, comedian, entrepreneur, ant-keeper. and of course YouTuber. So he definitely has a lot of sources of income. The reason he moved from Canada to the Philippines in the first place is for his singing career. Obviously, in the end, he's just trying to grow his channel.

 

Here is a link if you want to read more about him:

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#23 Offline Temperateants - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:43 PM

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Well the thing is, a lot of YouTube channels have had to constantly adapt to YouTube's constantly changing search and recommend algorithms and advertiser demands.  In order to get more and more views and subs, it's quite possible he's needed to cover trendy topics that YouTube wants, which may not be ones that interest you.

Further, many beginner ant keepers are going to find themselves outgrowing these YouTube channels once they start keeping ants of their own and interacting with other hobbyists in communities like this one.  After all, the target demographic for these videos does seem to be very young children, and not more experienced hobbyists.

Hopefully that is a smooth process, with a beginner doing more research and trying to catch some local queens instead of someone diving head first into the hobby and starting with RIFA. (which fans of his in real life I know want RIFA and a lot of people who start ask for how to care for RIFA and go straight to purchasing a colony, instead of having the patience to find a queen and raise a colony from that.)


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#24 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:39 PM

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Well the thing is, a lot of YouTube channels have had to constantly adapt to YouTube's constantly changing search and recommend algorithms and advertiser demands.  In order to get more and more views and subs, it's quite possible he's needed to cover trendy topics that YouTube wants, which may not be ones that interest you.

Further, many beginner ant keepers are going to find themselves outgrowing these YouTube channels once they start keeping ants of their own and interacting with other hobbyists in communities like this one.  After all, the target demographic for these videos does seem to be very young children, and not more experienced hobbyists.

Hopefully that is a smooth process, with a beginner doing more research and trying to catch some local queens instead of someone diving head first into the hobby and starting with RIFA. (which fans of his in real life I know want RIFA and a lot of people who start ask for how to care for RIFA and go straight to purchasing a colony, instead of having the patience to find a queen and raise a colony from that.)

 

what's RIFA?

 

EDIT: nvm they're red imported fire ants

 

WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THOSE AS FIRST TIME ANT KEEPERS!!!


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#25 Offline dspdrew - Posted May 24 2020 - 6:57 PM

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His FC account should be given negative 3.52 million reputation points, one for every subscriber.

Does/Did he use this forum? If so, whats his account?

 


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He used the forum for a little while to promote his stuff, but didn't like having to constantly deal with threads like these. I think we have one about what, once a week after his his weekly video is posted? Sure we all poke fun at some of his videos, but are these threads really necessary? I will say, he's got some good video production skills.

 

 

All popular Youtube channels have something that stands them out from the rest. Antscanada's experiments and dramatization helps him control the algorithm to reach other audiences (which are mostly those who don't raise insects).
 
Remember he does this as his job, not as a non profit organization.

Actually, I'm not sure it's his main source of income. He's actually a singer-songwriter, part-time actor, comedian, entrepreneur, ant-keeper. and of course YouTuber. So he definitely has a lot of sources of income. The reason he moved from Canada to the Philippines in the first place is for his singing career. Obviously, in the end, he's just trying to grow his channel.
 
Here is a link if you want to read more about him:
https://en.wikipedia...ki/Mikey_Bustos

 

 
You'd be surprised.


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#26 Online Zeiss - Posted May 24 2020 - 7:09 PM

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Yeah, I don't understand the point of this thread.  I don't think it's necessary to make threads to just complain about a video you guys don't like.  That would be more something for chat, where it's temporary.


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#27 Offline BugFinder - Posted May 24 2020 - 7:37 PM

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I just don't like him personally, so it's like a bunus when I dislike his content or a product he is selling.  


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#28 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 7:56 PM

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I just don't like him personally, so it's like a bunus when I dislike his content or a product he is selling.  

:/ Are his products good? I've never bought any.



#29 Offline BugFinder - Posted May 24 2020 - 8:10 PM

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I just don't like him personally, so it's like a bunus when I dislike his content or a product he is selling.  

:/ Are his products good? I've never bought any.

 

 

it depends on the product.   I don't really like the hybrid, but honestly there is nothing wrong iwth it, it's just not my cup of tea.  I own one that I bought just out of curiousity.   I do like his outworlds,and I'm curious about his ant tower.  I may buy one of those just to check it out and see if i like it.


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#30 Offline Nanahira - Posted May 24 2020 - 8:39 PM

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All popular Youtube channels have something that stands them out from the rest. Antscanada's experiments and dramatization helps him control the algorithm to reach other audiences (which are mostly those who don't raise insects).

 

Remember he does this as his job, not as a non profit organization.

Actually, I'm not sure it's his main source of income. He's actually a singer-songwriter, part-time actor, comedian, entrepreneur, ant-keeper. and of course YouTuber. So he definitely has a lot of sources of income. The reason he moved from Canada to the Philippines in the first place is for his singing career. Obviously, in the end, he's just trying to grow his channel.

 

Here is a link if you want to read more about him:

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Mikey_Bustos

In today's world, the more money the better  :)


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#31 Offline Serafine - Posted May 25 2020 - 2:48 AM

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WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THOSE AS FIRST TIME ANT KEEPERS!!!

Because new antkeepers of young age in particular are very easy to impress and obviously want the same ant their idol has and they see in his videos. It's the same reason people want the clothes some celebrity wore on some stupid press event.
Mikey does a decent job in recruiting new people into antkeeping.
He does a decent job of teaching them the basics of how to raise their first colony.
He does a meh job at teaching them the daily chores of antkeeping.
He does an AWFUL job of telling them which ants are good for beginners and which are not.
 
That's why I love 2can.tv so much - Brock's videos are very informative (not all of them but most are) and interesting but he never gets tired of telling people that (and why) toucans are absolutely awful pets which are also totally incompatible with most other pets and that most people will not be able to handle them, so you shouldn't try to keep them because they'll usually end up dead or in a pet shelter.

 

In today's world, the more money the better :)

It's not just money, it's Youtube as well. Their algorithm is an atrocity and it enforces all that crap with the "X does Y for the first time", "x vs y", the stupid thumbnail designs with the red arrows, the video length between 10 and 20 minutes, etc., the kind of language you can use (if it's getting to edgy/sweary you get demonetized), the kind of content you can produce (pretty much all history channels cannot monetize their videos anymore because they discuss weapons in one way or another) - if you don't do all of that crap the algorithm will just bury your video so nobody ever gets it as a suggestion or Youtube just denies your videos the ability to be monetized in the first place.

 

Content for kids got struck even worse because Youtube blissfully ignored COPPA child data protection laws for the last 20 years and obviously instead of actually fixing the problem they caused by themselves the Google execs decided to just slaughter their creators as Youtube always does - kid content on Youtube now can't have comments, can't show up in suggestions, isn't eligible for most advertisers and at this point is basically dead (which might be another reason AC is trying to get away from the overly "kid-friendly" dramahype style, if his channel got classified as kid content it would be pretty much the end).

 

The "good news" though is the algorithm may not be around in a few years because according to a new copyright study from the US government (they worked 5 years on it so it's not exactly new) Youtube's curation algorithm may actually violate the copyright safehaven laws aka be illegal in it's entirety (because it sometimes may suggest copyrighted materials). Imagine a Youtube that's no longer suggesting you videos but content creators instead and leaves the curation entirely to the creators themselves - I'm still not sure if that would be a good thing or if it would break Youtube for good.


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#32 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 25 2020 - 3:15 AM

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These threads serve no useful purpose anymore. Let’s let go of the envy, guys, and do some maturing. Believe me, Mikey Bustos won’t be the last person you disagree with, and he certainly won’t be the worst.
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#33 Offline Temperateants - Posted May 25 2020 - 4:23 AM

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These threads serve no useful purpose anymore. Let’s let go of the envy, guys, and do some maturing. Believe me, Mikey Bustos won’t be the last person you disagree with, and he certainly won’t be the worst.

Not envy, while for me at least. 50% critiquing and 50% complaining why impressionable antkeepers want RIFA or don't learn the basics of antkeeping very well.


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#34 Offline AntsExodus - Posted May 26 2020 - 6:27 AM

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I mean I understand why you guys think he isn't a good true ant keeper or a good influence for keeping ants and I get it but the thing is, why do you guys care so much? I'm pretty sure he inspired you to start ant keeping and don't say Ants Australia inspired you to start cause Ants Australia started as a GAN farmer and then started a YouTube channel so it was Ants Canada's fault that he became a YouTuber. Even if he did do it for the money there is so little famous YouTubers out there that don't do it for the money. He even puts a lot of time and effort in his videos and that "click bait" could have been a mistake. I don't get all the hate he gets and i think he doesn't deserve the hate. He has to upload videos every week and always has to have good content. Imagine having to make content every week. I am a YouTuber myself and it isn't easy and sometimes even stressful. Also, why is it bad that he is doing it for the money? First of all he isn't actually doing it 100 percent for the money because if he was then he would have sponsors for his videos which he doesn't, and he wouldn't be doing nature fundraisers on his videos which he does. If you guys have any counters to my opinion I will be honored to counter that opinion you so have. Thank you for your time!


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#35 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 26 2020 - 6:48 AM

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   I fully understand why you guys don't like him or his channel, but all these posts do is clog up the forum. If you need to vent, do it somewhere else, not in the forum. Try discord or whatever else you people use. This forum shouldn't just become a "HEY GUYS!" "Lets keep ourselves in a bubble of annoyance, where we just keep saying the same thing over and over!"


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#36 Offline ponerinecat - Posted May 26 2020 - 6:52 AM

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His FC account should be given negative 3.52 million reputation points, one for every subscriber.

Does/Did he use this forum? If so, what's his account?

 

He did, and actually seemed to respond to some criticism a while ago, but not anymore.


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#37 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 7:01 AM

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I mean I understand why you guys think he isn't a good true ant keeper or a good influence for keeping ants and I get it but the thing is, why do you guys care so much? I'm pretty sure he inspired you to start ant keeping and don't say Ants Australia inspired you to start cause Ants Australia started as a GAN farmer and then started a YouTube channel so it was Ants Canada's fault that he became a YouTuber. Even if he did do it for the money there is so little famous YouTubers out there that don't do it for the money. He even puts a lot of time and effort in his videos and that "click bait" could have been a mistake. I don't get all the hate he gets and i think he doesn't deserve the hate. He has to upload videos every week and always has to have good content. Imagine having to make content every week. I am a YouTuber myself and it isn't easy and sometimes even stressful. Also, why is it bad that he is doing it for the money? First of all he isn't actually doing it 100 percent for the money because if he was then he would have sponsors for his videos which he doesn't, and he wouldn't be doing nature fundraisers on his videos which he does. If you guys have any counters to my opinion I will be honored to counter that opinion you so have. Thank you for your time!

Does MrBeast do it for the money? He giveaway his own money and I think he just does it for fun. He wants money but its not 100% of the reasoning for it. 



#38 Offline jushi - Posted May 26 2020 - 7:01 AM

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Whether you like it or not, he doesn't make these videos for you personally. AC makes these videos because that's what makes him money. Sorry if you feel let down because you didn't get the video you wanted.


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#39 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 26 2020 - 7:02 AM

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Whether you like it or not, he doesn't make these videos for you personally. AC makes these videos because that's what makes him money. Sorry if you feel let down because you didn't get the video you wanted.

Actually it doesn't make him that much compared to his other ventures.

 

Edit: Pls do not post again because you have the perfect number of posts.


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#40 Offline ponerinecat - Posted May 26 2020 - 7:08 AM

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nah keep going till you hit 666






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