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Formica pallidefulva (Texas)


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#21 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 1:57 PM

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I only caught them yesterday; I'm not sure on a setup. They seemed docile at first boy was I wrong. A good video will follow:

#22 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:01 PM

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https://youtu.be/Ap4AkHBToVI

#23 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:16 PM

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My guess from what I can see right now would be Formica dolosa.



#24 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:28 PM

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That looks right. I was looking for the range or distribution in Texas to make sure it fits too.

#25 Offline Crystals - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:31 PM

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The video is much better than the pictures. 

I don't see the longer palps that would make this Myrmecocystus.

 

I think Gaige might be right about them being Formica.


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#26 Offline Ants4fun - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:42 PM

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Most likely Formica dolosa


Edited by Ants4fun, April 9 2015 - 2:53 PM.


#27 Offline Alza - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:45 PM

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Idk why, that body reminds me of a camponotus.



#28 Offline Ants4fun - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:51 PM

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They have distinct markings on the bottom of their gaster, if you google Formica dolosa, you will notice that they have those same marks, also, I don't believe there are many, if any, Camponotus species that are polygynous.


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#29 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:56 PM

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They all have that mark for sure. Do I need to try another video to verify? Or is it for sure Formica dolosa?
I can't find anything saying they have multiple queens in the same nest.

#30 Offline Ants4fun - Posted April 9 2015 - 2:58 PM

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A lot of formica are polygynous, but to know for sure wether it is Formica dolosa, you should film them with the same thing you filmed your camponotus queen with, It produced a lot clearer video. Unless you were...



#31 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 3:00 PM

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I'll try again they move way faster lol. I can't find my tripod either. But I'll try again.

#32 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 3:17 PM

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https://youtu.be/en0oOA4ft0c

#33 Offline Ants4fun - Posted April 9 2015 - 3:28 PM

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Sure looks like Formica dolosa!



#34 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 9 2015 - 3:43 PM

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Do you see any white hairs on the thorax of these?



#35 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:00 PM

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I don't see any but that doesn't mean they aren't there.
https://youtu.be/TSrauAg-y9Y

#36 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:32 PM

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I'm going with Formica pallidefulva.



#37 Offline Ants4fun - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:39 PM

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Very possible...



#38 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:39 PM

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What's the major difference between pallidefulva and dolosa?

#39 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:54 PM

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I might be wrong but in that video I think I seen the light reflecting off those hairs that drew speaks of?



#40 Offline Pulliamj - Posted April 9 2015 - 4:58 PM

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I definitely can see hairs on the gaster but I'm not sure about the thorax...




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