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Hibernating Ants in Large Setups


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#1 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted December 31 2019 - 1:46 PM

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I know it's really easy to put a test tube setup in the fridge on a warmer setting, but what if a formicarium (not including the outworld, because they don't need that in hibernation) is just too big for the fridge? What should I do?



#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted December 31 2019 - 1:52 PM

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Garage.


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#3 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted December 31 2019 - 1:59 PM

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I hibernate my ants in my crawlspace.


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#4 Offline dspdrew - Posted December 31 2019 - 3:06 PM

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I often hear "Garage" as the answer to all hibernation problems. Some people don't live where ants hibernate in the winter. For those people, the garage isn't going to do anything.



#5 Online ANTdrew - Posted December 31 2019 - 6:10 PM

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I often hear "Garage" as the answer to all hibernation problems. Some people don't live where ants hibernate in the winter. For those people, the garage isn't going to do anything.

This would be a problem if you had cool climate ants in a warm climate.
I’ve had success in an unheated basement as well. This member is in NY, so natural cold shouldn’t be hard to come by.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#6 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted December 31 2019 - 6:33 PM

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My garage doesn't even get near optimal temperature for hibernation (i'd have to take some measurements to make sure, though, i'm planning on doing that asap). Plus, anything looking for months of peace and quiet in my garage has come to the completely wrong place (the garage door is pretty loud and shaky). Once I know what the actual temperatures are in those areas (my garage and basement), i'll be able to finally make some conclusions...


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#7 Online ANTdrew - Posted January 1 2020 - 5:11 AM

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It’s not all that easy to get a colony to massive size as you can see from 95% of the journals on here. If you get to that point, best thing would be to shell out for a bigger fridge. On the other hand, you could stick to slow growing species like Camponotus.
I ran into this problem when I set up a natural soil set up for my Tetramorium and with my Crematogaster because they’re living in an AC outworld.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#8 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 1 2020 - 6:48 AM

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Now that I think of it, I think the garage might work. Again, i'll have to check,



#9 Online ANTdrew - Posted January 1 2020 - 10:10 AM

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My reservation about garages in general is all the chemical fumes.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#10 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 1 2020 - 4:41 PM

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My reservation is that they would freeze to death below zero, excluding Camponotus.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

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Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

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Lasius claviger

Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus


#11 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted January 1 2020 - 5:00 PM

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I'm trying to hibernate my ants in my garage, and so far I'm pretty sure they're not dead.


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#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 1 2020 - 5:01 PM

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You don't live in SoDak.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

Pheidole bicarinata

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Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus


#13 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted January 1 2020 - 5:09 PM

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You don't live in SoDak.

But I live in NY, which is the same place TheMicroPlanet lives.


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#14 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 2 2020 - 2:53 PM

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I was just making a point about the cold. Although I would be wary about keeping ants below freezing, regardless.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

Pheidole bicarinata

Lasius claviger

Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus


#15 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 2 2020 - 8:26 PM

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Yeah, here in Socal, most of my ants come from and area that is probably covered in feet of snow right now, so if they get big, I am going to experience some difficulties.  Shame it gets so warm here in the winter.  Then I could leave them outside.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#16 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 3 2020 - 3:25 PM

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 Shame it gets so warm here in the winter. 

First time I heard someone from Cali say that. If I do say so myself, the winter is bearable once you get used to it. Although in my opinion, hibernation is annoying. The snow's also really pretty at times. Not to mention the big icicles....


Edited by AntsDakota, January 3 2020 - 3:29 PM.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

Pheidole bicarinata

Lasius claviger

Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus


#17 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 4 2020 - 3:04 PM

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Yeah, well, I greatly dislike the heat.  If I could, I would make California have the same weather of Southern Britain.  Rarely gets much above 70, and rarely gets below freezing.  Perfect.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#18 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 4 2020 - 4:30 PM

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Maybe i'll put the setup next to a cooler with some blankets or something in the basement. Hibernation is still a long way off (for me anyway). I reeeaaaally got to measure the temperature in a few places (basement/garage/etc...)



#19 Offline Unfrozen - Posted January 5 2020 - 6:18 PM

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Ur lucky ur not here in Canada my buddy hibernate a his ants in his garage and so far almost all his ants froze to death

#20 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted January 6 2020 - 3:26 PM

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 Hibernation is still a long way off (for me anyway).

Isn't it winter in NY yet, or are you keeping your ants indoors for the time being?


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

Pheidole bicarinata

Lasius claviger

Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus





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