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[Groweverything]

What does a PPQ 526 permit allow you to do? Import any ants accross state borders, or just certain species?

[ponerinecat]

What does a PPQ 526 permit allow you to do? Import any ants accross state borders, or just certain species?

Yiu can file one for most species of ant which lets you import that species across borders. 

[Groweverything]

Thank you, I'm guessing they probably wouldn't allow invasive species such as solenopsis invicta accross borders though right? I live in new hampshire and would like a fast growing colony of ants that do not need to hibernate

[dspdrew]

Thank you, im guessing they probably wouldnt allow invasive species such as solenopsis invicta accross borders though right? I live in new hampshire and would like a fast growing colony of ants that do not need to hibernate

 

There are plenty species of ants that grow fast. I don't think S. invicta are always going to grow that much faster than other species. It mostly comes down to the fitness of your queen. No reason to bother with an invasive species like that.

[ANTdrew]

Yes, definitely do not transport S. invicta across state lines. Tetramorium grow just as fast and can get by without hibernating. You might also have luck with Tapinoma sessile.
Plus, the ability of northern ants to hibernate and survive harsh winters is a miracle of nature. It’s to be appreciated as much as the abilities of any exotic ants. It’s also a nice break, lol.

[nurbs]

Stop watching so much AC. Lots of fast growing species.

 

You know Solenopsis are very tiny ants, right?

[Antennal_Scrobe]

If you really do want invasive ants, try Tetramorium or Myrmica rubra, both of which live in New Hampshire. If it's the hibernation you care about, get Pheidole from Florida if you can procure a permit, or if you can't, search local greenhouses and botanic gardens for exotic ants like Paratrechina longicornis. If you can get your local Crematogaster, by all means do; they are a lot cooler than any invasive, and grow just as fast. Find FeedTheAnts' journal and you'll see what I mean. 

[Martialis]

We need a pinned PPQ 526 FAQ topic

[ANTdrew]

We need a pinned PPQ 526 FAQ topic

Facts

[Kalidas]

I never understood how and why amateur ant keepers get permits. Like I thought those were reserved for entomologists and myrmecologists, not for home entertainment and hobby uses

Edited by Kalidas, December 2 2019 - 7:46 AM.

[Groweverything]

Thank you everyone for the replies, before i saw these already filed a ppq526 but ill look into the species you guys mentioned and maybe look around in local greenhouses as i frequent them anyways. Right now i have a lasius niger(neoniger?) And a formica sp. Queen that i found this fall. I was impatient and looked at the lasius, causing her to eat her eggs. The formica has eggs but I'm trying to hibernate them both right now. I got kind of excited and then a bit let down that i had to hibernate them

[ANTdrew]

Patience is needed in all aspects of ant keeping.

[Mettcollsuss]

It's probably L. neoniger or L. americanus. L. niger is European.

[Mdrogun]

I am the farthest thing from an Antscanada fan, but Solenopsis invicta is probably the fastest growing monogynous species I have ever kept. Even in the middle of summer, I find that Tetramorium immigrans and the other fast growing species found in the more temperate climates can't keep up. However, I do recognize it is difficult to isolate variables since everyone feeds, heats and overall treats their ants differently. I am the kinda guy that keeps my ants at the highest temperatures they will tolerate, and feeds them until they will no longer eat. Solenopsis invicta are known to be able to take advantage of this kind of environment.

 

That being said, the only way the USDA will allow you, a hobbyist, to move Solenopsis invicta over state lines is if you get a signed note from the president. So good luck with that 

 

I would probably do what Antennal_Scrobe suggested and look around at local greenhouses if you are hellbent on getting species more accustomed to a tropical climate.

[nurbs]

Liometopum occidentale

 

 

I am the farthest thing from an Antscanada fan, but Solenopsis invicta is probably the fastest growing monogynous species I have ever kept. Even in the middle of summer, I find that Tetramorium immigrans and the other fast growing species found in the more temperate climates can't keep up. However, I do recognize it is difficult to isolate variables since everyone feeds, heats and overall treats their ants differently. I am the kinda guy that keeps my ants at the highest temperatures they will tolerate, and feeds them until they will no longer eat. Solenopsis invicta are known to be able to take advantage of this kind of environment.

 

That being said, the only way the USDA will allow you, a hobbyist, to move Solenopsis invicta over state lines is if you get a signed note from the president. So good luck with that 

 

I would probably do what Antennal_Scrobe suggested and look around at local greenhouses if you are hellbent on getting species more accustomed to a tropical climate.

[drtrmiller]

That being said, the only way the USDA will allow you, a hobbyist, to move Solenopsis invicta over state lines is if you get a signed note from the president. So good luck with that 

 

Maybe a tweet will suffice.

 

[gcsnelling]

 

That being said, the only way the USDA will allow you, a hobbyist, to move Solenopsis invicta over state lines is if you get a signed note from the president. So good luck with that 

 

Maybe a tweet will suffice.

 

 

 

 

Oh man don't give it any ideas.

[Antennal_Scrobe]

 

That being said, the only way the USDA will allow you, a hobbyist, to move Solenopsis invicta over state lines is if you get a signed note from the president. So good luck with that 

 

Maybe a tweet will suffice.

 

 

This has got to be the funniest thing I have seen on here in a while. Not to mention it is a pretty good Trump impression.

[SuperFrank]

This is how go about filling out permits. The permit process is not reserved for purely for professional/accademic purposes and there is absolutely no reason not to apply. I personally have gotten approval for multiple species and know other keepers who have also recieved approval.

 

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

Edited by SuperFrank, December 3 2019 - 10:49 PM.

[Antennal_Scrobe]

I set up an account, but to actually log in, I need my social security number, which I don't just have lying around.