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Camponotus gaster tears/ripped open?

Started By OhNoNotAgain , Oct 2 2019 10:30 AM

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#1 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 2 2019 - 10:30 AM

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My recently acquired Camponotus fragilis queen has these suspicious-looking tears? gaps? rips? marks? something? in her gaster. Both sides.
 
Gaster tear?
Gaster tear?

 

Has anyone seen this before? Although she doesn't seem to mind it at the moment I'm concerned she could be weaker as a result and die prematurely.

I'm really hoping this is normal but it looks kind of wrong :(


Edited by OhNoNotAgain, October 2 2019 - 10:32 AM.

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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.

#2 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 2 2019 - 2:22 PM

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I Don't know what that is, but maybe she got injured and her workers cleaned her to keep her alive? Beautiful ants though


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#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 2 2019 - 4:10 PM

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A clearer, top pic will help.

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#4 Offline Manitobant - Posted October 2 2019 - 4:46 PM

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I've heard of queens living with small tears in the gaster before. It should be fine as long as the gaster is not completely crushed, though some species, such as tapinoma sessile, have been reported to lay with crushed gasters.
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#5 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 2 2019 - 5:24 PM

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I hope so! I just worry about it impacting lifespan ... maybe during some time of stress or something. The tears look pretty sizeable so ... I dunno. I saw a vaguely similar post on AntsCanada forum but I don’t know what happened to that queen.

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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.

#6 Offline Guy_Fieri - Posted October 2 2019 - 6:03 PM

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If the queen has gotten this far, I wouldn't worry. Insects are amazingly tolerant of injuries.
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#7 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted October 2 2019 - 6:34 PM

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Thanks! I just don't know when it happened. Perhaps pigging out on Sunburst after shipping caused tearing, so the bulk of the tearing could be recent.

I guess I'm paranoid after killing some kiddie science class silkworms just by basically gently holding them... and they died days later after oozing a lot. Ughh I felt so bad after that.

I mean I know ants are tougher than coddled squishy overbred feeder larvae but still....

 

I'll try to get better pics. This is the only decent top sided pic I could get in a hurry and it's not that great. 

Upload of queen with tears from mobile

Edited by OhNoNotAgain, October 2 2019 - 6:34 PM.

Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus (inactive), vicinus, laevigatus/quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus (inactive)

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and californicus (inactive)

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.

#8 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 3 2019 - 5:24 AM

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It does look like tears.....

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#9 Offline treehunned - Posted October 3 2019 - 8:25 AM

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Wow what a cool looking species. I have not seen this color, wish you luck!


#10 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 3 2019 - 2:14 PM

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Wow what a cool looking species. I have not seen this color, wish you luck!

Camponotus is one of the most diverse and widespread genera on the planet. I honestly would not be surprised if there was a green or some other extremely oddly colored species somewhere in the tropics.  :)


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#11 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 5 2019 - 8:58 AM

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I have C. Pennsylvanicus, so it's kinda trippy to see a white species of Camponotous

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