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#2161 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 5 2023 - 6:30 PM

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Never mind, it looks like the temps dropped 5 degrees but only in one spot I was looking at.



#2162 Offline yaboiseth - Posted April 5 2023 - 7:08 PM

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If it continues being cold, will some spring fliers just not fly, or will they fly anyways?

I'm wondering this as well. The early spring fliers here like Veromessor and Dorymyrmex havent seemed to fly but I only see male alates in the vero nests. I'm hoping I don't miss em this year


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#2163 Offline Daniel - Posted April 5 2023 - 10:02 PM

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If it continues being cold, will some spring fliers just not fly, or will they fly anyways?

I'm wondering this as well. The early spring fliers here like Veromessor and Dorymyrmex havent seemed to fly but I only see male alates in the vero nests. I'm hoping I don't miss em this year

Veromessor pergandei flew in the Mojave in mid March. At least in the area out by Needles.

#2164 Offline Bashland - Posted April 16 2023 - 6:38 PM

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After finding a camp. us-ca-02 major in OC last year, my son and I are anxious to try to get a queen this year. We've been waiting for daytime temps in the 80s, but I don't think we've hit that yet. Have we missed it? Is there anything else we should be looking for other than high temp? Any particular time of day is better than others? Thanks!

#2165 Offline Scrixx - Posted April 16 2023 - 7:01 PM

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After finding a camp. us-ca-02 major in OC last year, my son and I are anxious to try to get a queen this year. We've been waiting for daytime temps in the 80s, but I don't think we've hit that yet. Have we missed it? Is there anything else we should be looking for other than high temp? Any particular time of day is better than others? Thanks!

I also want one this year. Temps have been pretty cold but there was a day last week they could have flown in the lower valleys. Though I couldn't check cause I had work.

 

Sorry guys, maybe me getting back into the hobby is postponing the flights :blink: 

 

On another note, I wonder how this will affect flights? Will they wait till the first good day or will they skip the year? Though some of my bonsai barely got their leaves out just recently so maybe the flights will soon follow? :)


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#2166 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 17 2023 - 12:43 AM

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Camponotus already flew in Socal for the most part. Only the higher elevations will still have flights.


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#2167 Offline Bashland - Posted April 17 2023 - 5:48 AM

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Camponotus already flew in Socal for the most part. Only the higher elevations will still have flights.


That's disappointing. What are the conditions we should be looking for that spark a Camponotus flight?

Edited by Bashland, April 17 2023 - 5:49 AM.


#2168 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 17 2023 - 6:56 AM

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Heat mainly.

 

Oh I forgot to mention that there are still a few species of Camponotus in the desert that fly all summer long. Rain is a bigger factor for them.



#2169 Offline AntsCali098 - Posted April 17 2023 - 9:32 AM

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Camponotus already flew in Socal for the most part. Only the higher elevations will still have flights.


Do you mean high elevation forested areas or desert?

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#2170 Offline Killi159 - Posted April 17 2023 - 11:45 AM

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Did anyone catch any Camponotus queens? Most trailheads were closed when I went.🥲

#2171 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 17 2023 - 2:37 PM

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Camponotus already flew in Socal for the most part. Only the higher elevations will still have flights.


Do you mean high elevation forested areas or desert?

 

 

I'm talking about the mountains above 6000 feet.


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#2172 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 17 2023 - 2:39 PM

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Did anyone catch any campo queens? Most trailheads were closed when I went.

 

What trailheads were closed?



#2173 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted April 17 2023 - 2:43 PM

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Did anyone catch any Camponotus queens? Most trailheads were closed when I went.


And you let that stop you? Tsk tsk. /sarcasm
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#2174 Offline Bashland - Posted April 17 2023 - 4:54 PM

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Heat mainly.

Oh I forgot to mention that there are still a few species of Camponotus in the desert that fly all summer long. Rain is a bigger factor for them.


We were waiting for local temps to hit mid 80s, so should we have been looking for a large temp increase from one day to the next instead of a specific temp?

Do you know what days they flew in OC this year so I can go back and look at the temps those days?

Thanks!

#2175 Offline AntsAmerica - Posted April 17 2023 - 8:41 PM

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Heat mainly.

Oh I forgot to mention that there are still a few species of Camponotus in the desert that fly all summer long. Rain is a bigger factor for them.


We were waiting for local temps to hit mid 80s, so should we have been looking for a large temp increase from one day to the next instead of a specific temp?

Do you know what days they flew in OC this year so I can go back and look at the temps those days?

Thanks!

 

they flew a week ago all over the santa ana mountains, and likely won't fly there again. I know the hills near pasadena and Mt San Jacinto have some spring Camponotus, when the temps get noticeably warm you can go there at dusk/night and look.



#2176 Offline Killi159 - Posted April 17 2023 - 9:09 PM

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Camponotus already flew in Socal for the most part. Only the higher elevations will still have flights.

Do you mean high elevation forested areas or desert?

I'm talking about the mountains above 6000 feet.


#2177 Offline Killi159 - Posted April 17 2023 - 11:06 PM

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Did anyone catch any Camponotus queens? Most trailheads were closed when I went.

 

What trailheads were closed?

 

I went to both Pinyons Pines and the San Bernardino Mountains a couple of weeks ago. The trails that I tried going to were blocked off and said temporarily closed on google maps.



#2178 Offline Killi159 - Posted April 17 2023 - 11:10 PM

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Did anyone catch any Camponotus queens? Most trailheads were closed when I went.


And you let that stop you? Tsk tsk. /sarcasm

 

I should've just went aghhhh. It was my first time T^T



#2179 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 19 2023 - 5:54 AM

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Heat mainly.

Oh I forgot to mention that there are still a few species of Camponotus in the desert that fly all summer long. Rain is a bigger factor for them.


We were waiting for local temps to hit mid 80s, so should we have been looking for a large temp increase from one day to the next instead of a specific temp?

Do you know what days they flew in OC this year so I can go back and look at the temps those days?

Thanks!

 

 

It's usually a big jump in temperature, but if it's the first flight of the year, it might just be when it reaches around 80. It also depends on whether or not it is within the window of time that the specific species flies. There's a lot of factors to look at. Sometimes everything is kind of borderline, and we just don't really know for sure if they will fly, but then other times we will be almost 100% certain they will.


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#2180 Offline CAantz - Posted April 21 2023 - 6:20 AM

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Any Camponotus flights still to happen in the Santa Monica Mountains? There is a heat spike and it is going to hit 80 degrees today, and I was going to look around some of the trails early tomorrow morning.




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