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Ant ID Please - Sydney Australia 9mm - Is this a queen?

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#1 Offline antaioli - Posted September 18 2017 - 8:18 PM

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Found this ant on my driveway today while I was out catching a smaller species that was flying.

I did not see wings on this ant but the body structure makes me think it's a queen.

25 degrees c. Clear skies. 30km/h winds. ~25% humidity.

Any info would be awesome. Thanks!

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#2 Offline VoidElecent - Posted September 19 2017 - 6:46 AM

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Your ant is definitely a queen; try to post some more photos from different angles. Your picture isn't bad at all, but a little more definition could go a long way.


Edited by VoidElecent, September 19 2017 - 1:22 PM.


#3 Offline T.C. - Posted September 19 2017 - 9:37 AM

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You ant is definitely a queen; try to post some more photos from different angles. Your pciture isn't bad at all, but a little more definition could go a long way.

I agree with VoidElecent. It is a queen.

 

But "you ant" is incorrect grammar and "pciture" is spelt wrong sir. :P

 

See what I've done here? ;)


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#4 Offline 123LordOfAnts123 - Posted September 19 2017 - 11:07 AM

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A queen Dolichoderinae of sorts. Probably Iridomyrmex given location.
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#5 Offline JackPearl - Posted September 19 2017 - 12:52 PM

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A queen Dolichoderinae of sorts. Probably Iridomyrmex given location.


To small to be Iridomyrmyx.

#6 Offline VoidElecent - Posted September 19 2017 - 1:21 PM

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You ant is definitely a queen; try to post some more photos from different angles. Your pciture isn't bad at all, but a little more definition could go a long way.

I agree with VoidElecent. It is a queen.

 

But "you ant" is incorrect grammar and "pciture" is spelt wrong sir. :P

 

See what I've done here? ;)

 

 

Haha, very funny!   :)

 

Fixed.



#7 Offline 123LordOfAnts123 - Posted September 19 2017 - 1:32 PM

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A queen Dolichoderinae of sorts. Probably Iridomyrmex given location.


To small to be Iridomyrmyx.

With over 70 Iridomyrmex species native to Australia I'd hardly consider 9mm too small to be such.

#8 Offline JackPearl - Posted September 19 2017 - 2:14 PM

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A queen Dolichoderinae of sorts. Probably Iridomyrmex given location.


To small to be Iridomyrmyx.

With over 70 Iridomyrmex species native to Australia I'd hardly consider 9mm too small to be such.

I would know BEING from Australia.
It is rather small for the genus AND it doesn't have the telltale brown lines in the gaster. I'd consider something closer to Notoncus or something more on those lines.

It's colouring, patterns,size and shape aren't correct to be Iridomyrmyx surely. Could we please have a photo from the top?

#9 Offline Phoenix - Posted September 19 2017 - 2:17 PM

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Camponotus Sp, I'll Say.


Colonies

Camponotus cf. albosparsus — Journal

Camponotus cf. auriventris — Journal
Camponotus sp.
Colobopsis spp.
Crematogaster sp.
Nylanderia sp.  Journal
Pheidole cf. parva
Solenopsis geminata — Journal
 

#10 Offline antaioli - Posted September 24 2017 - 5:13 AM

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Thank you so much everyone for the replies, I am waiting to receive a usb microscope to get better images of all my queens.

I have two queens like the one in this thread, one in a dirt container the other in a test tube. They both have eggs! This is my first time catching and keeping ants!

 

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#11 Offline VoidElecent - Posted September 24 2017 - 5:31 AM

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I second Iridomyrmex.


Edited by VoidElecent, September 24 2017 - 6:23 AM.

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#12 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 24 2017 - 6:16 AM

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A queen Dolichoderinae of sorts. Probably Iridomyrmex given location.


To small to be Iridomyrmyx.

 

 

Iridomyrmex is a very diverse genus coming in many sizes, some even smaller. There aren't many other possibilities, since she does not have an acidopore (disqualifying Camponotus , Notoncus, and all other members of Formicinae). She sure doesn't look like Ochetellus. That being said, more than one picture is always great.


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#13 Offline antaioli - Posted September 24 2017 - 6:56 PM

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Here's a few pictures with an actual camera! Hope this helps. Thanks!

 

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#14 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 24 2017 - 7:06 PM

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Do you have any shots of the front of the head, showing off the length of the teeth on the mandibles?


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#15 Offline antaioli - Posted September 24 2017 - 7:29 PM

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Do you have any shots of the front of the head, showing off the length of the teeth on the mandibles?

 

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#16 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 25 2017 - 3:56 AM

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Yuuup. Pretty sure that's Iridomyrmex, for the apical tooth which is almost twice as long as the sub-apical.


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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#17 Offline antaioli - Posted September 25 2017 - 4:38 PM

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Thanks for the help Batspiderfish and everyone that replied!

Now I need to prepare to house the future colonies :)



#18 Offline antaioli - Posted November 15 2017 - 5:45 PM

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Here's this queen with her first workers, and getting her first honey meal.

 

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#19 Offline Hunter - Posted November 15 2017 - 5:48 PM

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#20 Offline Hunter - Posted November 15 2017 - 5:55 PM

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the only thing near me with that big a teeth is my pitbull







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