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Multi-Queen Tetramorium caespitum colony Journal (experiment)

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#41 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted October 7 2017 - 3:13 AM

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My current 20-worker Tetramorium sp. E colony comes from one queen, but I found that queen under a brick sharing a founding chamber with a second queen. They didn't have any brood that I could see. One queen escaped into the leaf litter, but I caught the second, and she now has a thriving colony.



#42 Offline T.C. - Posted October 7 2017 - 7:50 PM

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Update: 10/7/17

1 Queen left, and it was the one I predicted to be the survivor that survived. The other two where taken into the outworld where.... well you know what happened.
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#43 Offline Chicken_eater100 - Posted October 7 2017 - 7:57 PM

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Nature is so forgiving.

#44 Offline T.C. - Posted October 14 2017 - 1:03 PM

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UPDATE: 10/14/17

Ok, so there is actually 2 queens left. One has been hiding under brood all this time.I hope these two don't start fighting and kill off eachother. That would suck.

 

Lots of brood and workers at this point.


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#45 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted October 14 2017 - 3:04 PM

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I think I'm going to try this experiment myself next year when Tetramorium are flying again.



#46 Offline T.C. - Posted November 3 2017 - 10:13 AM

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UPDATE: 11/3/17

 

Now there is only one queen. :blush:


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#47 Offline Chicken_eater100 - Posted November 3 2017 - 10:16 AM

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So now it's a single queen tetramorium experiment.
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#48 Offline T.C. - Posted November 3 2017 - 10:43 AM

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So now it's a single queen tetramorium experiment.

 

No, experiment is complete! I got a large colony from it. It worked out as I planned... or hoped.


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#49 Offline sgheaton - Posted November 3 2017 - 10:46 AM

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More like the trial period..


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#50 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted November 3 2017 - 11:04 AM

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So now it's a single queen tetramorium experiment.

 

No, experiment is complete! I got a large colony from it. It worked out as I planned... or hoped.

 

How big is the colony now?



#51 Offline T.C. - Posted November 3 2017 - 11:10 AM

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About a 150 workers and 200 larvae. I know that may seem like alot, but the queens all laid eggs before they where killed and alot of them. Almost all of those eggs hit the larvae stage at the same time. They consume a lot of protein.


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#52 Offline AntHUB - Posted November 20 2017 - 4:25 PM

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I tried polygeny with my colony that I assumed was tetramorium. I am not sure what kind it actually is because the nanitics are larger than most Tetramorium nanitics. Also in the wild 72% of Tetramorium immigrans colonies start out a pleometrosis. Most colonies end up a monogamy though, the same is true with Solenopsis invicta. This technique allows colonies to grow faster and the S. invicta colonies that use this technique raid other colonies almost year round. Which results in huge population explosions. 


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#53 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted November 21 2017 - 10:32 AM

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I tried polygeny with my colony that I assumed was tetramorium. I am not sure what kind it actually is because the nanitics are larger than most Tetramorium nanitics. Also in the wild 72% of Tetramorium immigrans colonies start out a pleometrosis. Most colonies end up a monogamy though, the same is true with Solenopsis invicta. This technique allows colonies to grow faster and the S. invicta colonies that use this technique raid other colonies almost year round. Which results in huge population explosions. 

Your colony might be Pheidole, Aphaenogaster, Solenopsis, or Myrmica if the nanitics are larger than Tetramorium nanitics.


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#54 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted November 29 2017 - 6:16 PM

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I'm going to try this next year, but one problem: is it possible that the one queen the workers let live will be infertile?



#55 Offline T.C. - Posted November 29 2017 - 8:32 PM

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I'm going to try this next year, but one problem: is it possible that the one queen the workers let live will be infertile?


Not likely. Their flights are pretty big.
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#56 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted November 30 2017 - 4:04 AM

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I'm going to try this next year, but one problem: is it possible that the one queen the workers let live will be infertile?


Not likely. Their flights are pretty big.

 

Good point. Of all the Tetramorium queens I've found, only one was infertile.



#57 Offline noebl1 - Posted November 30 2017 - 5:37 AM

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Good point. Of all the Tetramorium queens I've found, only one was infertile.

 

This is my experience as well.  



#58 Offline T.C. - Posted December 4 2017 - 12:57 PM

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Growing.... (sorry, the slight condensation ruined the pic. )

 


Edited by T.C., December 4 2017 - 12:57 PM.

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#59 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 4 2017 - 1:48 PM

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Wow, the workers are huge compared to the queen! My foundling of this species has workers as small as the queen's head.

EDIT: Foundling=my nickname for founding colonies.


Edited by Connectimyrmex, December 4 2017 - 1:51 PM.

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Miniature Labradoodle
Baby Wolf Spider
Mud Dauber wasp larvae
Ochetellus Glaber
Solenopsis Geminata
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Tetramorium Bicarinatum
Plagiolepis Alluaudi
Anoplolepis Gracilipes
Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps





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