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#1 Offline SoySauce - Posted March 11 2017 - 5:47 PM

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I found this queen in its founding chamber on the Chaney trail in Alta Dena on March 10. It's approximately 11mm long and it had rained like 5 days prior. These were the best pictures I could take w my iPhone. I apologize in advance.

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I was told it was definitely Myrmecocystus but I wanted to see if you guys could tell the subspecies. Many thanks in advance!

#2 Offline soulsynapse - Posted March 11 2017 - 6:46 PM

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#3 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 11 2017 - 7:07 PM

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Myrmecocystus, probably M. testaceus. The other possibility is M. wheeleri. Actually the more I look at it the more I am leaning towards M. wheeleri. The appropriate term is species not subspecies.


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#4 Offline SoySauce - Posted March 11 2017 - 7:43 PM

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OK, many thanks on both accounts!  



#5 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 12 2017 - 4:23 AM

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Myrmecocystus, probably M. testaceus. The other possibility is M. wheeleri. Actually the more I look at it the more I am leaning towards M. wheeleri. The appropriate term is species not subspecies.

 

What about M. mimicus? I found a bunch of M. mimicus with these exact strange colors (compared to the workers they produced). The queen and workers both keyed out to M. mimicus.

 

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Workers came out black with dark red heads.

 

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#6 Offline SoySauce - Posted March 12 2017 - 7:50 AM

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I don't know if these pictures are any better:

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#7 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 12 2017 - 9:17 AM

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I'm going with M mimicus
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#8 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 12 2017 - 3:13 PM

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I'm going with M mimicus

Just a W.A.G.?



#9 Offline SoySauce - Posted March 12 2017 - 3:55 PM

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W.a.g. ???

#10 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 12 2017 - 4:19 PM

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W.A.G.= Wild [censored] guess.


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#11 Offline SoySauce - Posted March 12 2017 - 4:21 PM

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Lol ok. Thanks

#12 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 12 2017 - 4:30 PM

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Well anything is  possible with this silly genus. I guess we won't know until we see some workers.



#13 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted March 12 2017 - 6:52 PM

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I go with WAG all the time!

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#14 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 13 2017 - 6:35 AM

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W.A.G.= Wild [censored] guess.

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#15 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 13 2017 - 7:55 AM

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Myrmecocystus, probably M. testaceus. The other possibility is M. wheeleri. Actually the more I look at it the more I am leaning towards M. wheeleri. The appropriate term is species not subspecies.

 

What about M. mimicus? I found a bunch of M. mimicus with these exact strange colors (compared to the workers they produced). The queen and workers both keyed out to M. mimicus.

 

med_gallery_2_468_365362.jpg

 

 

Workers came out black with dark red heads.

 

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Where were yours collected Drew?



#16 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 13 2017 - 8:17 AM

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Where were yours collected Drew?

 
Some were found in Phelan, and some in Twenty-nine Palms.



#17 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 13 2017 - 8:54 AM

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Where were yours collected Drew?


Some were found in Phelan, and some in Twenty-nine Palms.

 
Oh man you drove all the way out to the hell hole that is two nine?



#18 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 13 2017 - 9:27 AM

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Where were yours collected Drew?


Some were found in Phelan, and some in Twenty-nine Palms.

 
Oh man you drove all the way out to the hell hole that is two nine?

 

 

Yeah. That place is great for collecting desert ants.






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