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Is it legal to transport an ant colony from Hawaii to Connecticut?

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#1 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 19 2016 - 4:10 PM

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Hi!

 

Sadly for me, in a year or so my parents said that we need to move to Connecticut for better money (my dad is an ER doctor and Hawaii's ER doesn't pay as much) and I don't really have a say in that because i'm still an eighth grader. When we move I really wanted to bring my favorite colony (Ochetellus Glaber, has one worker and two queens) to Connecticut. Would it be legal to transport them? Also my ant is tropical so I don't know if it will survive in cold weather.


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#2 Offline dermy - Posted December 19 2016 - 4:13 PM

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Sadly yes, yes it is Illegal, you need to either find someone in that area to give the colony to, freeze them [it's the most humane way of killing them I can think of]

 

It doesn't matter if they couldn't survive because of the weather conditions, laws are in place for a reason.


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#3 Offline Kevin - Posted December 19 2016 - 4:29 PM

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Yes, it is illegal, but cold weather wouldn't be a problem, your house will most likely be heated in the winter. Don't discuss illegal transporting, the thread will turn into a cluster-**** of arguments.


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#4 Offline CallMeCraven - Posted December 19 2016 - 4:32 PM

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Sadly yes, yes it is Illegal, you need to either find someone in that area to give the colony to, freeze them [it's the most humane way of killing them I can think of]

 

It doesn't matter if they couldn't survive because of the weather conditions, laws are in place for a reason.

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#5 Offline Zeiss - Posted December 19 2016 - 4:37 PM

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Hawaiiant is new to this so don't go crazy on him.  He was just asking a question.  But yes, it is illegal to transport ants over state borders.  I would not even try because the repercussions are big. (i.e.: large fines, loss of all insects, jail time, etc.)


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#6 Offline FSTP - Posted December 19 2016 - 10:14 PM

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It's unfortunate that you'll have to dispose of the ants you have now. However look on the bright side. There will be a plethora of new and exciting native ants in Connecticut for you to discover and keep.



#7 Offline Leo - Posted December 19 2016 - 10:14 PM

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well i would let them go (somewhere in a mountain)



#8 Offline FSTP - Posted December 19 2016 - 10:21 PM

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well i would let them go (somewhere in a mountain)

 

Its poor practice to release captivity raised ants even if they're local and native. There is potential for the captive ants to introduce some unknown pathogen to the wild ant stock. Its best to just humanly dispose of them.  :/


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#9 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 19 2016 - 10:21 PM

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yeah let them go in their natural habitat or give them away


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#10 Offline Zeiss - Posted December 20 2016 - 12:43 AM

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yeah let them go in their natural habitat or give them away

As said in the post before yours, releasing is not a good idea...


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#11 Offline Loops117 - Posted December 20 2016 - 5:12 AM

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You could always sign up on GAN to sell your colonies. Would net you some extra money and help a new hobbyist get their first colony. You'll have plenty of time to do so.

 

http://www.antscanad...-ants-for-sale/

Go on there and sign up.

It's free.

 

 

IMO, this is your best option.


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#12 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted December 20 2016 - 6:34 AM

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Hi!
 
Sadly for me, in a year or so my parents said that we need to move to Connecticut for better money (my dad is an ER doctor and Hawaii's ER doesn't pay as much) and I don't really have a say in that because i'm still an eighth grader. When we move I really wanted to bring my favorite colony (Ochetellus Glaber, has one worker and two queens) to Connecticut. Would it be legal to transport them? Also my ant is tropical so I don't know if it will survive in cold weather.


Well, before you move, your colony might be bigger. Maybe it would be a good idea to release them In a forest or something. :)
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#13 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 20 2016 - 7:55 AM

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Hawaii would be a bit of an exception to the rule of not releasing even local ants, because Hawaii has no endemic ants. Their ant fauna is made entirely of introduced species -- all the more reason to leave the ants there.

 

Ideally, you ought to find somebody to adopt the ants.


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#14 Offline dermy - Posted December 20 2016 - 11:49 AM

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There is so much wrong with this comment, this thread has already basically been answered, It is illegal to bring the ants From Hawaii to Connecticut and not a good idea to release them. I'm also pretty sure that this Post breaks a forum rule.

 

To be more specific this rule right here:

 

 

8. Buying, selling, or trading queen ants is not illegal in most places, including the US, however, what is illegal a lot of times, is shipping or transporting them. Here in the US it is illegal to ship or transport queen ants across state borders. The scientific community also strongly discourages this because of the harm that can be done to the local ecosystem. Because of this, making arrangements to buy, sell, or trade nonnative queen ants is not allowed anywhere on Formiculture.com.


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#15 Offline Zeiss - Posted December 20 2016 - 1:29 PM

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Hi!
 
Sadly for me, in a year or so my parents said that we need to move to Connecticut for better money (my dad is an ER doctor and Hawaii's ER doesn't pay as much) and I don't really have a say in that because i'm still an eighth grader. When we move I really wanted to bring my favorite colony (Ochetellus Glaber, has one worker and two queens) to Connecticut. Would it be legal to transport them? Also my ant is tropical so I don't know if it will survive in cold weather.


Well, before you move, your colony might be bigger. Maybe it would be a good idea to release them In a forest or something. :)

 

I just said do not do that...

 

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Annexis, this comment is extremely wrong.


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#16 Offline gcsnelling - Posted December 20 2016 - 2:37 PM

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Good thing I am not drew, would be suspending or banning people about now.


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#17 Offline FSTP - Posted December 20 2016 - 2:43 PM

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I guess only a few read my post...

 

Please just dispose of them....



#18 Offline drtrmiller - Posted December 20 2016 - 3:19 PM

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Kill the animals. Kill them all!
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#19 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted December 20 2016 - 4:08 PM

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Kill the animals. Kill them all!

Couldn't agree more!!! :kill: :kill: :kill: :kill: :kill:

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#20 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 20 2016 - 6:24 PM

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Kill the animals. Kill them all!

Couldn't agree more!!! :kill: :kill: :kill: :kill: :kill:

 

 

I'm just going to release them, but I may burn that darn centipede that I caught yesterday!  :lol:

 

jk I'm probably gonna release it too

 

But since you guys said that releasing may be bad, I might try to give them away. Anyone else in Hawaii willing to take my Noah's Ark worth of ants? :D


Edited by Hawaiiant, December 20 2016 - 6:25 PM.

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Miniature Labradoodle
Baby Wolf Spider
Mud Dauber wasp larvae
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Solenopsis Geminata
Brachymyrmex Obscurior
Cardiocondyla Emeryi
Tetramorium Bicarinatum
Plagiolepis Alluaudi
Anoplolepis Gracilipes
Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps





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