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Best Answer SummysAnts , October 23 2016 - 8:00 PM

Me and my brother might have gone a but crazy, so we actually have I think 17 of them? We had been trying to find queens for so long that we just collected a ton. We also figured that their were probably a ton of people who would like some queens since theirs not many people in VA selling them unfortunately, I we plan on giving some away when they get their first nanitics. But I will definitely keep you updated! Go to the full post


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#1 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 6:30 PM

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1. Location of collection: I found them in Virginia Beach, Va, in the United States. While Outside with the dogs I noticed a huge swarm up above the trees and I just kinda crossed my fingers and hopped it was ants  ;) I remembered someone mentioning that they are attracted to white things and so I grabbed some test tubes and ran for my car and they were covering it. Most all of the queens that I picked up still had the males attached to them or were in the process of cleaning their gasters or removing their wings.

 

2. They were collected on both October 18th and 19th around 5oclock


3.  Habitat collected in: The house I was at has a backyard with a lot of trees and dense brush, and I think they might have come from there.


4. Length: Should be about 5mm (will include a picture with a ruler)


5. Description: They are kind of an orangish yellow color with dark bands on their gaster, which apears to be somewhat translucent. There dosent apear to be any hair that I can see but their also extremely small so it's a bit hard to tell. They definitely do seem to be a bit shiny and their gaster is sort of an long oval shape. 


6. Distinguishing characteristics: No spines or major distinguishing features except their oval gasters as far as I can tell, Their had to get a good look at but I think its only one petiole, also their mandible arent big so I don't believe them to be parasitic


7. Anything else distinctive: Rather calm ants, none of them showed any aggression towards me or each other.


8. Nest description: No idea what the nest looks like, I think it was in the neighbors yard

 

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#2 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted October 23 2016 - 6:55 PM

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Definitely lasius species! I think neoniger
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(1) Hermit Crab
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(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#3 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:06 PM

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Definitely lasius species! I think neoniger

Do you think so? I was previously told Brachymyrmex depilis?



#4 Offline Canadian anter - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:11 PM

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Looks like a flavus group lasius. Too big for brachymyrmex
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#5 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:23 PM

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Looks like a flavus group lasius. Too big for brachymyrmex

really? I'm not doubting you I'm just shocked by imagining queens smaller than 4-5 millimeters 



#6 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:23 PM

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Definitely not brachymyrmex... Whoever told u that needs to google

Edited by Alabama Anter, October 23 2016 - 7:24 PM.

Keeper of...

(2) Parakeets
(2) Peppered Corydoras
(4) Neon Tetras
(1) Hermit Crab
(100-300) Mealworms
(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#7 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:27 PM

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Definitely not brachymyrmex... Whoever told u that needs to google

Alright :) well thank you, it was someone on facebook but I figured that you guys would have a better job at it, I'm glad i asked though, since i was also told that they were polygynous and to combine some of them



#8 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:36 PM

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Lol that would've been a disaster!!! Good luck
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(2) Parakeets
(2) Peppered Corydoras
(4) Neon Tetras
(1) Hermit Crab
(100-300) Mealworms
(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#9 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:41 PM

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thank you :)



#10 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted October 23 2016 - 7:54 PM

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thank you :)

Np!!! Tell me how ur Lasius neoniger goes cause I got one as well!
Keeper of...

(2) Parakeets
(2) Peppered Corydoras
(4) Neon Tetras
(1) Hermit Crab
(100-300) Mealworms
(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#11 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 23 2016 - 8:00 PM   Best Answer

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Me and my brother might have gone a but crazy, so we actually have I think 17 of them? We had been trying to find queens for so long that we just collected a ton. We also figured that their were probably a ton of people who would like some queens since theirs not many people in VA selling them unfortunately, I we plan on giving some away when they get their first nanitics. But I will definitely keep you updated!
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#12 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 23 2016 - 9:12 PM

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Guys, 4-5mm is way too small for Lasius flavus.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#13 Offline AntsMAN - Posted October 24 2016 - 3:27 AM

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I think the original ID was correct with Brachymyrmex.


Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#14 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 24 2016 - 8:31 AM

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Guys, 4-5mm is way too small for Lasius flavus.

that's kind of what I was thinking, I looked up some Lasius flavus queens that other people had and they seemed huge to me. my queens could have been their workers.

 

I think the original ID was correct with Brachymyrmex.

Awesome :) they seem like a really cool species



#15 Offline NightsWebs - Posted October 24 2016 - 12:58 PM

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unfortunately, the pictures aren't clear. I would post some close ups from top and side views it really helps with identification.


Current Colonies;

Acromyrmex Versicolor

Dorymyrmex Bicolor

Pogonomyrmex Californicus
Pogonomyrmex Rugosus

Pogonomyrmex Tenuispinus
Novomessor Cockerelli
Myrmecocystus Mexicanus

 

Last Update: 08 Jul 2016

 

 


#16 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted October 24 2016 - 1:22 PM

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Brachymyrmex doesn't look like that mate
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(2) Parakeets
(2) Peppered Corydoras
(4) Neon Tetras
(1) Hermit Crab
(100-300) Mealworms
(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#17 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 24 2016 - 2:42 PM

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Brachymyrmex doesn't look like that mate

 

What characteristics disqualify Brachymyrmex? Looks an awful lot like Brachymyrmex depilis to me. The only alternative for a yellow, claustral, formicine queen of that size would be Nylanderia, but these don't look hairy from this distance. A photograph allowing us to count the antennal segments would cinch this.


Edited by Batspiderfish, October 24 2016 - 2:42 PM.

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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#18 Offline SummysAnts - Posted October 24 2016 - 4:57 PM

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I'll get some better pictures when I get home tonight :)

#19 Offline SummysAnts - Posted December 27 2016 - 3:20 PM

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An update on my ants.
They are all still alive and their gasters seem to possibly have gotten bigger. Is that likely? I'm having a hard time telling I'd they've layed eggs since A) their so tiny and B ) their mostly on the cotton and theirs no way I could see tiny eggs in the cotton also C) I think their hibernating, because you know it's winter and all :D I'm happy to announce that I think one if them almost positively has eggs in it! A small little pile.

Also I was wondering if since these are a polygynous species would it be OK still to combine some of them at this time, or is it too late? I don't want them to kill each other but we'd love to combine a bunch for a bigger colony :) A few are already combined and doing ok. I don't really know if they have eggs.

Edited by SummysAnts, December 27 2016 - 3:35 PM.


#20 Offline SummysAnts - Posted December 27 2016 - 3:23 PM

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Sorry I had a fight with the posting button and it seems it might have won
Edit: I fixed it

Edited by SummysAnts, December 27 2016 - 3:34 PM.






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