But that's an issue with the marketing, not the product itself. Again, can we please focus on the hard facts and evidence of the actual device. I am not an uninformed no-research consumer. I'm a person who has done my research and like I've already stated before this product does not forgo regular bee care, checking brood, etc. For me personally, this simply makes the extraction process easier and less time consuming. And like I continue to say, I would still use regular wood and wax racks on the sides and maybe install 3 of these in the hive. No one in this thread is saying good beekeeping procedure should be forgone (although they might infer that in the video). What I'm trying to ask is why if there is negative feedback this is a bad idea. You can't just sit and tell me "oh beetles and stuff". That doesn't explain anything! Why would hive beetles and stuff be more of a problem using this than regular racks?
I hate that this has turned into a elitist thing. It's for "people that want to get away from the bees" is your interpretation of it. Anyone who does their homework knows that you'd still have to check on the bees regularly and inspect the hive for any number of reasons. If you have a problem with the way its marketed fine w/e, idc. BUT PLEASE, CAN WE STICK TO THE ACTUAL PROS AND CONS OF THE DEVICE ITSELF, not how people will abuse the device or come up with stupid notions of hands-off beekeeping because of a promo video.
EDIT: Also I'm pretty sure if you go for honey, you have to drain the whole frame for it to work properly and be re-used properly by the bees. I'm pretty sure those are in the instructions of use but frankly for me, that's just so self-explanatory I'm surprised it still even needs to be said.
What I am saying is, just get yourself a langstroth, a time tested method, and make yourself a member of a local club or group and borrow their extractor. A package of bees frankly don't aren't cheap, and neither is beekeeping equipment. $400-$500 is more than enough to get started on, including bees, and buy a few luxuries, and even that is cheap than the $700+ you pay for this thing, not including bees and the multitude of other things, such as hive tools, and the wax frames you say you will buy, a veil, meds, the list goes on and one.. There are many problems that happen with the product, and even if you remove the frames, you still don't eliminate all of them. Plus, you have saved money that you can use to purchase medications, hive blockers, stands, frames, supers, and other things. I met many clubs, and they are full of wonderful people. They will answer your questions, and loan or even give you or help you on your equipment. Joining one will give you access of an extractor. These are purely my views.
Species I keep:
1 Lasius cf. Neoniger 30 workers
1 Camponotus sp. 15 workers
20 Tetramorium SpE 30 workers
1 T. Sessile 200 workers