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What Pheidole sp should I get?

Started By AntsGodzilla , Sep 7 2024 9:41 AM
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#1 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 7 2024 - 9:41 AM

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Hey everyone, I've been looking for my next colony, and pheidole caught my eye because of their supermajors. I am waiting for Hyatti to come back in stock in Antopia usa, buy I was wondering if there might be better species for a first time pheidole keeper.


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#2 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 7 2024 - 9:50 AM

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Hey everyone, I've been looking for my next colony, and pheidole caught my eye because of their supermajors. I am waiting for Hyatti to come back in stock in Antopia usa, buy I was wondering if there might be better species for a first time pheidole keeper.

One note they don't have super majors. I would recommend P.bicarinata check out ANTdrew's colony as it is full of info.


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Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#3 Offline eea - Posted September 7 2024 - 10:02 AM

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Have pheidole stopped flying?

#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 7 2024 - 10:50 AM

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I second P. bicarinata. Pheidole in my area are done flying for sure.
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#5 Offline ReignofRage - Posted September 7 2024 - 5:09 PM

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The most "fun" Pheidole you can find in California would have to be the main group (excludes P. sciophila) P. fallax-group species such as the P. hyatti you have your eyes on.


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#6 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:07 AM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#7 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:14 AM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me

It  takes a year or two for them to grow very big.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#8 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:15 AM

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oh ok


what would be the max of pheidole bicarinata?


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#9 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:18 AM

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A few thousand I would say. But with optimal conditions they may grow with 200-400 workers within a year.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#10 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:22 AM

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And what would be a good formicarium for them when they are full grown? I buy from THA because I'm bad at diy.

 

 

Edit: yay 100 posts!


Edited by AntsGodzilla, September 8 2024 - 10:23 AM.

I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#11 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 10:29 AM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.


Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#12 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:26 PM

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I know that pheidole eat a lot, and I only have fruit flies, chicken, spiders, and sometimes other meats available. Would that be enough?


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#13 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:40 PM

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I know that pheidole eat a lot, and I only have fruit flies, chicken, spiders, and sometimes other meats available. Would that be enough?

with carbohydrates yes that is enough


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#14 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 8 2024 - 12:42 PM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.

They are also quite affordable so that helps. Por Amor also makes really unique products and they have many affordable options to choose from.


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#15 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 1:32 PM

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UA makes great custom diy nests. When they get to that size hit him a dm and he'll help you.

They are also quite affordable so that helps. Por Amor also makes really unique products and they have many affordable options to choose from.

 

how many of these: https://www.poramora...carium-18x18-cmwould I need for a full sized colony?


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#16 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:00 PM

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I would say 1. But I wouldn't worry about that till you even have them to that size.


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, September 8 2024 - 2:00 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#17 Offline bmb1bee - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:08 PM

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I looked into the pheidole journals and the colonies are a little to big for me

It  takes a year or two for them to grow very big.
Nah, takes them less than a year to get big.

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#18 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 8 2024 - 2:29 PM

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Would this be better since it's bigger https://www.antscana...d-2-0-gear-pack


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

#19 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted September 8 2024 - 5:25 PM

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I Would not recommend it for it is made of  cheap plastic. (especially the nest)


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#20 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted September 9 2024 - 7:13 AM

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yeah I've heard that before


I keep:

Pogonomyrmex Rugosus journal
Myrmecocystus Deplisis journal
Monomorium ergatogyn Journal

And many Carnivorous plants such as:

Dionea (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) 

 

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

I will become the #1 top poster

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