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Big bear ant queen/colony ID’s

Started By AsdinAnts , Apr 22 2024 8:22 PM
california big bear ant queens/colonies

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#1 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 22 2024 - 8:22 PM

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I’m pretty sure that these queens are pogonomyrmex occidentalis, but I am not entirely sure. Please correct me if i’m wrong!

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-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#2 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 22 2024 - 8:23 PM

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Here are two pictures of a wild small colony of formica that I caught in big bear under a rock. I’m pretty sure they are Formica Neogagtes? (forgot the exact name) please correct me if i’m wrong!

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Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#3 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 22 2024 - 8:25 PM

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Lastly, here is a temnothorax queen that I caught wandering under a rock, I’m like 80% sure that this queen is a temnothorax longispinosus queen but not entirely sure, please correct me if i’m wrong

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Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#4 Online bmb1bee - Posted April 22 2024 - 8:32 PM

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You're likely right for the last two, but the first pair of queens are actually Manica invidia. They are heavily carnivorous and have been known to eat other ants. The genus doesn't do well with heat from what I've heard, so be sure not to heat them.


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#5 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 22 2024 - 9:00 PM

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alr, thanks!
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#6 Online bmb1bee - Posted April 22 2024 - 9:56 PM

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No problem! Also, in case if you didn't see it, I sent you a PM regarding something.


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#7 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 23 2024 - 3:10 AM

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Last one is Stenamma, T. longispinosus is an eastern species.
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#8 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 23 2024 - 6:35 AM

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oh sheesh, so I have a cryptid queen ant!
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#9 Offline gcsnelling - Posted April 23 2024 - 2:40 PM

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Pogonomyrmex up at Big Bear would most likely be P. montanus.


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#10 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 23 2024 - 4:46 PM

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Pogonomyrmex up at Big Bear would most likely be P. montanus.

I'm confused now 😭 both the manica invidia, and the pogonomyrmex montanus look like the queen I have
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#11 Online bmb1bee - Posted April 23 2024 - 4:49 PM

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Pogonomyrmex up at Big Bear would most likely be P. montanus.

I'm confused now 😭 both the manica invidia, and the pogonomyrmex montanus look like the queen I have
Pogonomyrmex shouldn’t be flying around this time, neither should there be easily accessible founding colonies. Manica are more likely to be found under rocks and such.

Edited by bmb1bee, April 23 2024 - 4:52 PM.

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#12 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 23 2024 - 5:10 PM

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yea, I found her under a rock
Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.

#13 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 24 2024 - 3:32 AM

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Trust me, it’s Manica.

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#14 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted April 24 2024 - 5:57 AM

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Yeah, first is definitely Manica.


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#15 Offline gcsnelling - Posted April 24 2024 - 2:39 PM

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I agree it is Manica, my point was that if it was Pogonomyrmex it was likely montanus, not occidentalis.


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#16 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 24 2024 - 5:17 PM

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We were never directing anything at you.


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#17 Online AsdinAnts - Posted April 28 2024 - 7:53 AM

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Okay, can someone tell me if these queens are both F. neogagates or not. I’m wondering because one of the workers are attacking the queen and kicking her out of the nest, but all the other workers AND THE QUEEN are fine with her.

First two photos are queen one, other two are queen two. The first queen just looks a little more fatter than the other, but that’s it?

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Currently keeping
-A. occidentalis
-B. patagonicus
-F. neogagates
-M. invidia
-Stennama spec..
I will want to also keep some lasius in the future.
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