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ID of Yellow

Started By blarrgh , Mar 12 2023 6:49 AM

Best Answer Manitobant , March 12 2023 - 8:06 AM

that's a formica species, likely F. pallidefulva or another member of that group. Go to the full post


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#1 Offline blarrgh - Posted March 12 2023 - 6:49 AM

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Hi all,

 

I came across these ants behind a parking lot in Northwest Georgia last week. I picked up what looks to be a couple of queens and 20+ workers.

The queens look to have wing scars and are about 0.75 cm in length.

 

I suspect these are pharaoh ants by their appearance and possibly polygyny, but would like a confirmation.

 

Planning to migrate them to a THA fortress formicarium next week.

 

Thanks so much in advance!!

 

EDIT: Sorry about title. Meant to say "ID of Yellow Ants" hah

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#2 Offline antperson24 - Posted March 12 2023 - 7:23 AM

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How long are they?


 Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?

There are so many fascinating ants right were you live!

I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that are not found in your area.

 

#3 Offline blarrgh - Posted March 12 2023 - 7:45 AM

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How long are they?

I measured the queen to be ~ 0.75 cm in length

So maybe 0.3 inches long. Thanks!


#4 Offline antperson24 - Posted March 12 2023 - 7:51 AM

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How long are they?

I measured the queen to be ~ 0.75 cm in length

So maybe 0.3 inches long. Thanks!

 

Could you get a picture of the other queens? 7.5mm sounds pretty large for Monomorium pharaonis. The other "queens" could just be majors, I suspect them to be of the genus Camponotus. <--- That's wrong, sorry.


Edited by antperson24, March 12 2023 - 8:09 AM.

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 Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?

There are so many fascinating ants right were you live!

I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that are not found in your area.

 

#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted March 12 2023 - 8:06 AM   Best Answer

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that's a formica species, likely F. pallidefulva or another member of that group.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline antperson24 - Posted March 12 2023 - 8:07 AM

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that's a formica species, likely F. pallidefulva or another member of that group.

Oh, yes now that I look at the workers thoraxes closer I see that.


Edited by antperson24, March 12 2023 - 8:07 AM.

 Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?

There are so many fascinating ants right were you live!

I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that are not found in your area.

 

#7 Offline blarrgh - Posted March 12 2023 - 8:12 AM

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How long are they?

I measured the queen to be ~ 0.75 cm in length

So maybe 0.3 inches long. Thanks!

 

Could you get a picture of the other queens? 7.5mm sounds pretty large for Monomorium pharaonis. The other "queens" could just be majors, I suspect them to be of the genus Camponotus. <--- That's wrong, sorry.

 

 

Thanks much. You guys rock. Here is a better pic and I put a ruler underneath hah.

I guess I was way off with the Pharaoh ants guess. I do think they are queens though?

 

Once again, much appreciated from this newbie.

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#8 Offline antperson24 - Posted March 12 2023 - 8:25 AM

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How long are they?

I measured the queen to be ~ 0.75 cm in length

So maybe 0.3 inches long. Thanks!

 

Could you get a picture of the other queens? 7.5mm sounds pretty large for Monomorium pharaonis. The other "queens" could just be majors, I suspect them to be of the genus Camponotus. <--- That's wrong, sorry.

 

 

Thanks much. You guys rock. Here is a better pic and I put a ruler underneath hah.

I guess I was way off with the Pharaoh ants guess. I do think they are queens though?

 

Once again, much appreciated from this newbie.

 

From what I can see there is only one queen.


 Why keep ants that aren't found in your yard?

There are so many fascinating ants right were you live!

I disagree with the keeping/buying of ants that are not found in your area.

 

#9 Offline LowQualityAnts - Posted March 12 2023 - 9:05 AM

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Monomorium pharonis can't survive well in North georgia and the body proportions are all wrong. If it is polygenous then it is most likely some type of formica.
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#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 12 2023 - 9:32 AM

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It is 100% some species of Formica.
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#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted March 12 2023 - 1:11 PM

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Yup pallidefulva group formica. I find it interesting how small the queens are, and i never knew they were polygynous.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#12 Offline blarrgh - Posted April 1 2023 - 9:22 AM

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Hi again,

 

Didn't want to bog down the forum with a new post but I caught another queen and would like a quick ID

 

Location: around swimming pool in Northwest Georgia

Catch date: 3/25/23

 

Length: ~9 mm

Body: Looks to be dark red/ brown body with black gaster

 

Sorry about the quality but I didn't want to disturb her too much

(I know about the low reservoir... rookie mistake  %)

 

Thanks in advance!

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#13 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted April 7 2023 - 3:57 PM

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Looks like Solonopsis maybe red imported fire ant.A closer picture would be useful.It could be a little black ant.
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#14 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 7 2023 - 7:22 PM

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Solenopsis invicta.
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#15 Offline Flu1d - Posted April 8 2023 - 12:38 PM

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Hi again,

Didn't want to bog down the forum with a new post but I caught another queen and would like a quick ID

Location: around swimming pool in Northwest Georgia
Catch date: 3/25/23

Length: ~9 mm
Body: Looks to be dark red/ brown body with black gaster

Sorry about the quality but I didn't want to disturb her too much
(I know about the low reservoir... rookie mistake %)

Thanks in advance!


I came to agree with Solenopsis invicta.

#16 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 8 2023 - 2:19 PM

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Yup pallidefulva group formica. I find it interesting how small the queens are, and i never knew they were polygynous.

F. biophilica and F. pallidefulva are both commonly polygyne in the Southern US.

 

The second queen is most definitely Solenopsis invicta x richteri. They dominate urban areas of North/Central Georgia. 


Edited by TennesseeAnts, April 8 2023 - 2:20 PM.

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