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ID this Queen! (Now with Pictures!)

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#1 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 4 2021 - 8:14 PM

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So, a couple weeks ago I noted a large gathering of very red alates with super skinny gasters. Shortly after noting this, I wondered if I would see a queen. I saw a large black and russet ant moseying along and tubed her. She has laid eggs and is in fact a queen. She is a very nice blackened colour with a small russet area on her underside. Gaster is quite oval with pronounced plate edges. I hope to figure out pics soon.
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Flight date: Late July
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Description: approx 1 cm, 12+ eggs so far after a couple weeks of being chambered at room temp, no AC. Black everything with russet underside. Oval gaster. Did I catch a Camponotus? Seems fast for that and too small I think.

Edited by mantisgal, August 5 2021 - 11:47 AM.


#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 4 2021 - 8:17 PM

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We need a picture.

#3 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted August 5 2021 - 5:49 AM

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It could be aphenogaster but there no telling without a photo.

My favorite queens/colony’s:
Pheidole Tysoni, Selonopis Molesta, Brachymyrmex Depilis, Tetramorium Immagrians, Prenolepis Imparis, Pheidole Bicirinata 


#4 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 6:41 AM

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I KNOW I AM SORRY I WORK ON IT

Thank you for the guess, though, I will look them up.
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#5 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 6:44 AM

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I forgot to state they were found in the midst of a grassy area if that helps (I know it doesn't help as much as a pic but it's what I have rn). Should I fail completely here I'll wait to see what workers look like 🤔

#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 5 2021 - 9:28 AM

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Why make an ID request when you haven’t taken any pics?

Also, posting pics on FC is quite easy. Upload them to the gallery on mobile and then switch to PC and insert them into your post with the “my media” tab.

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#7 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 11:20 AM

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Durr. Ok I'll go bother her and see if I can do the thing. If I can, expect many photos of other ants too.

#8 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 11:27 AM

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K who dis? I did try to tilt her (GENTLY! I was careful of her treasure of eggs!) to get a pic of her underside but she was very much against the idea, but she does have a bit of a lighter patch on her underside

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#9 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted August 5 2021 - 11:53 AM

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lasius maybe?


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1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

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#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 5 2021 - 12:57 PM

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Lasius sp. Can't ID niger group Lasius to species without looking at them under the microscope.


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Species being kept:

 

Solenopsis truncorum, Solenopsis "plebeius", Solenopsis validiuscula, Solenopsis sp., Solenopsis xyloni, Solenopsis amblychila, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus maritimus, Formica cf. subaenescens, Formica cf. aerata, Lasius cf. americanus, Lasius aphidicola, Lasius brevicornis, Lasius nr claviger, Pheidole navigans, Nylanderia vividula, Aphaenogaster occidentalis, Temnothorax rudis, Temnothorax cf. nitens, Pogonomyrmex californicus, and Strumigenys membranifera

 

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#11 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 1:25 PM

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Oh wild. Does this mean she's a slaver?

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#12 Offline GreekAnts - Posted August 5 2021 - 1:26 PM

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Oh wild. Does this mean she's a slaver?

if she was social parasite she wouldn't lay eggs on her own and her head would be bigger than her thorax


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#13 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 5 2021 - 1:35 PM

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Oh good because I was not ready for a parasitic colony. I appreciate the clarification, thanks!

#14 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted August 5 2021 - 3:58 PM

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What do you mean super skinny gastor and red XD

My favorite queens/colony’s:
Pheidole Tysoni, Selonopis Molesta, Brachymyrmex Depilis, Tetramorium Immagrians, Prenolepis Imparis, Pheidole Bicirinata 


#15 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 5 2021 - 4:16 PM

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What do you mean super skinny gastor and red XD

"So, a couple weeks ago I noted a large gathering of very red alates with super skinny gasters. Shortly after noting this, I wondered if I would see a queen. I saw a large black and russet ant moseying along and tubed her."

 

That was a different species.


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#16 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted August 5 2021 - 5:08 PM

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Ops! My bad
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My favorite queens/colony’s:
Pheidole Tysoni, Selonopis Molesta, Brachymyrmex Depilis, Tetramorium Immagrians, Prenolepis Imparis, Pheidole Bicirinata 


#17 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:07 AM

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I was actually assuming they were male alates from the way they were all dying.

I tried to take some better stills from the video taken. Perhaps it helps narrow down spp taken with the possible relevant males present?

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#18 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 7 2021 - 10:47 AM

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Like Nick said, you’ll probably need a microscope and as far as I know Lasius don’t have red male alates.
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#19 Offline mantisgal - Posted August 7 2021 - 4:41 PM

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Oh okay thank you for the information, I didn't realize the boys were the giveaway. I now wonder whose Man they were





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