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[antboyidaho]

In Boise, Idaho on May 17 I caught a Camponotus Modoc Queen and another much smaller queen which I suspect is also a Camponotus Species. 

 

  Pictures, Red thorax and Black Head and Abdomen.

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Edited by antboyidaho, May 19 2021 - 12:55 PM.

[Mettcollsuss]

Camponotus, but not a queen. Looks like a media worker.

[CheetoLord02]

also, C. pennsylvanicus is not present in Idaho. Might want to double-check that ID.

[antboyidaho]

Camponotus, but not a queen. Looks like a media worker.

The ant had wings and shed them so it is either a male of a queen and it does not seem like a male

[Mettcollsuss]

Are you able to get any higher resolution images? with the ones provided it definitely looks like a Camponotus worker

[antboyidaho]

[NickAnter]

That is 100% a worker. That species is likely C. vicinus, and this is what their queens look like:

 

 

[Ferox_Formicae]

I second that, Camponotus (Camponotus) cf. vicinus or a related species.

[Chickalo]

also, C. pennsylvanicus is not present in Idaho. Might want to double-check that ID.

Perhaps it was C. modoc?  Also I double on what Ferox says, either vicinus or a related species.  Also there's no way that had wings, the thorax curves down, so there's no room for wing muscles, not to mention the fact that the gaster is circular and skinny.

[Kaelwizard]

 

Camponotus, but not a queen. Looks like a media worker.

The ant had wings and shed them so it is either a male of a queen and it does not seem like a male

 

The pictures provided clearly show a worker, which cannot have wings in the first place.

[antboyidaho]

Ok I guess that I should tell the whole story from the beginning. So I caught two of the ant species with the black head and abdomen and red thorax. Both the queens I caught had wings. I let one of them go and kept one of them. The next morning I found the ant crawling along the ground with no wings. One of the ants kept their wings and one did not. Here is the picture of the ant winged ant: 

So if this ant is not a queen why does it have wings?

So to sum up I caught two queens with a day between them. One had wings the other did not.

Edited by antboyidaho, May 19 2021 - 6:04 AM.

[Chickalo]

I don't think it was the same ant considering the build of the one in the morning that's supposedly the one you let go is exactly like a worker, not a queen.

[antboyidaho]

I don't think it was the same ant considering the build of the one in the morning that's supposedly the one you let go is exactly like a worker, not a queen.

So you think the one without wings is not a queen but the one with wings is?

[Kaelwizard]

 

I don't think it was the same ant considering the build of the one in the morning that's supposedly the one you let go is exactly like a worker, not a queen.

So you think the one without wings is not a queen but the one with wings is?

 

Exactly. It was just really confusing since you only posted pictures of the one that is a worker, not the queen until now.

Edited by Kaelwizard, May 19 2021 - 6:22 AM.

[antboyidaho]

Ok, sorry about that. I just really did not want to disturb the ants and stress them out. 

 

So you think that it is a Camponotus Vicinus Queen? It is super small at only about one centimeter long.

[Kaelwizard]

Ok, sorry about that. I just really did not want to disturb the ants and stress them out. 

 

So you think that it is a Camponotus Vicinus Queen? It is super small at only about one centimeter long.

1 cm is too small to be Camponotus, but it is clearly Camponotus. I would double check your measurements.

[TennesseeAnts]

 

Ok, sorry about that. I just really did not want to disturb the ants and stress them out. 

 

So you think that it is a Camponotus Vicinus Queen? It is super small at only about one centimeter long.

1 cm is too small to be Camponotus, but it is clearly Camponotus. I would double check your measurements.

 

Are you forgetting about Myrmentoma? 

[antboyidaho]

 

Ok, sorry about that. I just really did not want to disturb the ants and stress them out. 

 

So you think that it is a Camponotus Vicinus Queen? It is super small at only about one centimeter long.

1 cm is too small to be Camponotus, but it is clearly Camponotus. I would double check your measurements.

 

I double checked and for sure it is 1 cm from head to abdomen.

[Kaelwizard]

Ok, sorry about that. I just really did not want to disturb the ants and stress them out.

So you think that it is a Camponotus Vicinus Queen? It is super small at only about one centimeter long.

1 cm is too small to be Camponotus, but it is clearly Camponotus. I would double check your measurements.

Are you forgetting about Myrmentoma?

Oh crap! I completely forgot!

[antboyidaho]

If it is Myrmentoma what type specifically?

Edited by antboyidaho, May 19 2021 - 12:51 PM.