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Fully claustral queen ID (4/26/21)

Started By AntsLA-1 , Apr 26 2021 3:51 PM

Best Answer AntsLA-1 , May 8 2021 - 11:34 AM

So is this solved? I'm going with T. Sessile.

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#1 Offline AntsLA-1 - Posted April 26 2021 - 3:51 PM

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We caught this queen and are wondering what species she is. We caught her in a backyard on 4/26/21 on pavement. Length would be roughly about 4-5mm. Black head and thorax and black abdomen with 3 brown stripes, shiny with no hair. Very long abdomen with none or just one petiole.

 

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#2 Offline AntsLA-1 - Posted April 26 2021 - 5:01 PM

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Would anyone think this is brachymyrmex patagonicus?


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#3 Offline ZTYguy - Posted April 26 2021 - 5:50 PM

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This is Brachymyrmex patagonicus for comparison. I think it looks like a different genera or at least a different species.

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#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 26 2021 - 6:13 PM

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Looks like Tapinoma sessile.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 26 2021 - 6:17 PM

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Could it be nylanderia? This is in california right?
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline ZTYguy - Posted April 26 2021 - 7:00 PM

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Not nylanderia. Doesn’t match any


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#7 Offline ZTYguy - Posted April 26 2021 - 7:08 PM

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I think it is Liometopum luctuosum. Look at dspdrew’s journal. Looks pretty similar.


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#8 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted April 26 2021 - 8:31 PM

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Liometopum luctuosum is (if I recall correctly) generally larger than 4-5mm.


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#9 Offline ZTYguy - Posted April 26 2021 - 8:49 PM

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Yeah. I’ll keep on looking. I want to crack this case.


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#10 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted April 27 2021 - 6:56 AM

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i thought it looked like dorymyrmex


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#11 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 27 2021 - 7:17 AM

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No, Dorymyrmex is not nearly so bulky, and is longer. I am about 99% sure this is Tapinoma sessile.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#12 Offline ZTYguy - Posted April 27 2021 - 7:31 AM

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Possibly


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#13 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted April 27 2021 - 7:38 AM

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No, Dorymyrmex is not nearly so bulky, and is longer. I am about 99% sure this is Tapinoma sessile.

I agree. Looks just like it.

#14 Offline AntsLA-1 - Posted April 27 2021 - 1:02 PM

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Yeah. I’ll keep on looking. I want to crack this case.

Haha, thanks!


Could it be nylanderia? This is in california right?

Yes, California.


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#15 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 27 2021 - 1:26 PM

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I'm honestly stumped. It seems too bulky to be sessile, and it doesn’t seem like anything in california that I know of.
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Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#16 Offline NickAnter - Posted April 27 2021 - 1:34 PM

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I think the "bulkyness" is just that it is physogastric. I'm positive this is not Nylanderia, the antennae are far too short, and B. patagonicus has a much different head shape.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#17 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 27 2021 - 2:44 PM

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I agree with NickAnter on T. sessile.


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#18 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted April 27 2021 - 3:27 PM

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I also think it is Tapinoma sessile


#19 Offline Amazant - Posted April 27 2021 - 3:58 PM

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Could you have gotten the measurements wrong? It looks like formica lasioides or Formica subaenescens but they usually fly later in the year around august or June.
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#20 Offline gcsnelling - Posted April 27 2021 - 5:42 PM

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Take a look at the acidopore, it looks round to me which would let out Tapinoma.


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