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#1 Online Chickalo - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:52 PM

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Hullo!

 

On my hunt for future Chestnut Chums, I didn't find castaneus.  However, I did catch a 10 queen colony!  Have no idea what it is, well, I lied, yes I do, but the ID in the discord server wasn't very clear (if you're reading this I'm sorry but I'm telling the truth).

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They're very polygynous

They're a little polymorphic

They're a brown-reddish colour

The queen was just chilling there when I was moving them and I didn't even realise lmao

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#2 Online ANTdrew - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:53 PM

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Aphaenogaster species
Jk, jk. I mean Mymica.

Edited by ANTdrew, May 3 2021 - 2:40 PM.

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#3 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:55 PM

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This is a Myrmica sp. colony

 

Please be careful digging up colonies from the wild, it is disruptive in many ways.  :(


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#4 Online Chickalo - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:02 PM

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Don't quote me on this, but reminds me of Aphaenogaster fulva kind of.  I'd say tenn, however tenn isn't polygynous.  

Edit:  Nevermind it's definitely rudis, the queen matches perfectly with the light body and darker head.  Antwiki says they're common so I wouldn't worry too much about disrupting the ecosystem, but I do tend to stay away from catching wild colonies unless I know they're really common.  Even then I don't actively search for them.


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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:29 PM

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That’s myrmica dude. How ANTdrew confused that with aphaenogaster is beyond me.

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#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:32 PM

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This is most assuredly a Myrmica species. Those queens are semi claustral, and the workers sculptured and rugose and not very leggy. The opposite of all those characteristics is Aphaenogaster.


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#7 Online Chickalo - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:32 PM

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That’s myrmica dude. How ANTdrew confused that with aphaenogaster is beyond me.

Should I get a worker and ask my old 6th grade science teacher to use her microscopes?


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#8 Online ANTdrew - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:34 PM

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Just trying to keep you youngsters on your toes. A test, if you will.
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#9 Online Chickalo - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:40 PM

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I mean but like:

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My phone is really bad at taking photos, should I try to get another of the workers for better clarity?  The colours in this are really diminished from what she really looks like


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#10 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 3:11 PM

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I mean but like:
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My phone is really bad at taking photos, should I try to get another of the workers for better clarity?  The colours in this are really diminished from what she really looks like

it’s definitely myrmica. Queen is slimmer and less leggy. Also, good luck getting myrmica down to species without a microscope.

#11 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 4 2021 - 3:25 AM

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It is 100% Myrmica. ONE HUNDRED percent. Got that? Trust me, when you find an Aphaenogaster queen, you will know.


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#12 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted May 4 2021 - 3:34 AM

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I've seen an Aphenogaster queen in Tennessee and it looks nothing like your queen. It is definitely Myrmica. I've even caught Myrmica queens in running across my yard probably from a nuptial flight. Not Aphenogaster.



#13 Online Chickalo - Posted May 4 2021 - 3:56 AM

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Ah okay, rubra perhaps?  I was thrown off since the myrmica queen I caught last year didn't look much like these in my opinion.


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#14 Online Ferox_Formicae - Posted May 4 2021 - 3:58 AM

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I mean but like:
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My phone is really bad at taking photos, should I try to get another of the workers for better clarity?  The colours in this are really diminished from what she really looks like

it’s definitely myrmica. Queen is slimmer and less leggy. Also, good luck getting myrmica down to species without a microscope.

 

You'd be hard pressed to get Myrmica down to species WITH a microscope! Their taxonomy is all over the place, and on top of that, there are a ton of undescribed species that can really throw you off.


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#15 Online Chickalo - Posted May 4 2021 - 4:01 AM

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I mean but like:
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My phone is really bad at taking photos, should I try to get another of the workers for better clarity?  The colours in this are really diminished from what she really looks like

it’s definitely myrmica. Queen is slimmer and less leggy. Also, good luck getting myrmica down to species without a microscope.

 

You'd be hard pressed to get Myrmica down to species WITH a microscope! Their taxonomy is all over the place, and on top of that, there are a ton of undescribed species that can really throw you off.

 

I see.  Again, I can ask my old 6th grade teacher to use the microscopes in her room and get a worker onto a slide.  How I'd take photos, I have no idea.  (also the queens layed a nice batch of eggs last night)


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