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#1 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 10:22 AM

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Found while removing plastic for my garden. They were in dirt and on a small branch. They're incredible small.

Sorry for the bad pic. I could get it to spread out on the slide.

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#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 10:24 AM

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Nylanderia sp i think.

#3 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted May 3 2021 - 10:26 AM

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Prenolepis imparis without a doubt. Proportions are wrong for Nylanderia. The mesosomal constriction is also too prominent.


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#4 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 3 2021 - 10:41 AM

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They're incredible small.

 

Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.



#5 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 10:46 AM

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They're incredible small.


Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small

Edited by JoeByron, May 3 2021 - 10:51 AM.


#6 Online Kaelwizard - Posted May 3 2021 - 11:08 AM

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They're incredible small.


Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small

 

0.5mm is a speck.


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#7 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:16 PM

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They're incredible small.


Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small
no ant in North America is that small. Could it be brachymyrmex? Those come the closest.

#8 Offline NPLT - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:27 PM

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They're incredible small.


Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small

 

The only ants of that size I know of are Carebara atoma and Plagiolepis alluaudi and those are from Micronesia and Africa respectively.


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Um, uh, Ants!

 

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#9 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 3 2021 - 1:59 PM

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I still think this is Nylanderia. Rigorous measurements (don't just eyeball it. As stated above, no ant in NA is less than 1mm in length) or clear photographs would really help.



#10 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:01 PM

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They're incredible small.


Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small

 

0.5mm is a speck.

 

 

 

Why this country couldn't of switched away from imperial before I was an adult would of been great. Its like 5 little slashes before the bigger 1 on a ruler on the mm side of things. I'm going to teach myself this tonight. But Felt I should show how dumb I am so incase mr. Biden is on this form he can make the switch for us, so no one else has to suffer this shame.



#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:27 PM

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They're incredible small.

Measurement in mm is ideal, but I second Nylanderia.
I mean like. Probably 1mm or .5mm. Like realllllly small
0.5mm is a speck.


Why this country couldn't of switched away from imperial before I was an adult would of been great. Its like 5 little slashes before the bigger 1 on a ruler on the mm side of things. I'm going to teach myself this tonight. But Felt I should show how dumb I am so incase mr. Biden is on this form he can make the switch for us, so no one else has to suffer this shame.
that's 5mm. Actually seems quite big now.

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#12 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:34 PM

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If it is 5mm then it is Prenolepis.


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#13 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 3 2021 - 2:47 PM

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Yes, 5mm is by no means incredibly small. Even a picture of the ant next to a ruler would help.



#14 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 3:11 PM

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Prenolepis imparis without a doubt. Proportions are wrong for Nylanderia. The mesosomal constriction is also too prominent.

 

 

I think youre right. Imma bust out the compound microscope when i get off and try to get better photos. 


Yes, 5mm is by no means incredibly small. Even a picture of the ant next to a ruler would help.

 

 

I'll try, I need to buy slides with a ruler on it. 



#15 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 3:15 PM

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its like 1 or two mm they are soooooo tiny. like grain of rice.



#16 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 4:31 PM

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its like 1 or two mm they are soooooo tiny. like grain of rice.

what color are they (off of the microscope)

#17 Offline JoeByron - Posted May 3 2021 - 4:33 PM

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its like 1 or two mm they are soooooo tiny. like grain of rice.

what color are they (off of the microscope)

 

 

 

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#18 Offline Manitobant - Posted May 3 2021 - 6:09 PM

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I'm gonna say brachymyrmex patagonicus. If you insist its that small, there is nothing else it could be.

#19 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 3 2021 - 8:00 PM

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This looks nothing like Brachymyrmex to me. I think this is either Nylanderia or Prenolepis, and that would easily be solved with an accurate measurement.


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Ants in Possession:             

Lasius americanus--80 workers

Nylanderia vividula--500+ workers

Temnothorax rudis--5 workers                     My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube....94qmMPiVKmlVldA             

Pheidole navigans--400+ workers

Cardiocondyla mauritanica--3 queens

Camponotus maritimus--Eggs and Larvae

Dorymyrmex insanus--Larvae

  

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