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ID Requests - Some of my colonies ( Istanbul - Europe )


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#1 Offline Elraen - Posted June 1 2015 - 3:44 PM

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1. Location of collection: 

 

All of my colonies are founded on circles. 

Istanbul - Turkey - Europe

 

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1) Messor (...)? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Under the rock.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black

 

Multi Queen;

 

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2) Messor (...)? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Under the rock.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black

 

Multi Queen; ( +6 :) )

 

 

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3) Messor (...)? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Under the rock.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black

 

Multi Queen; ( +2 )

 
 
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4) Messor  Barbarus ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: I bought them from a guy in London.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black

It was alone queen. But now she is ok with her workers.

 

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5) Messor  (...) ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Founded in my garden.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black

 

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6) ???  (...) ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Founded under the rock on wet dirt.

5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Red - Black

 

Queen is big maybe 1 cm. Also workers too. 0,5 cm.

 

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7) ???  (...) ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Founded on the road near to the jungle.

 

0.5 or 0.6 cm.

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8) ???  (...) ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Founded under the rock.

 

Workers are really small. Also queen too.

 

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Thanks a lot


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#2 Offline Elraen - Posted June 1 2015 - 3:46 PM

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9) Paratrechina ???  (...) ? 

 

3. Habitat of collection: Founded in the jungle.

 

Multi queens. Workers are really small. Also queen too.

 

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#3 Offline Alza - Posted June 1 2015 - 4:06 PM

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Wow, Have never seen any of these.



#4 Offline AntTeen804 - Posted June 1 2015 - 4:14 PM

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7 looks like a Aphaenogaster or Myrmica Queen.

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#5 Offline dspdrew - Posted June 1 2015 - 6:15 PM

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Crazy how much those Messor look like our Veromessor pergandei.



#6 Offline Elraen - Posted June 2 2015 - 11:53 AM

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Yeah, they look like perhandei. :) So guys we can not quess their IDs right :/


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#7 Offline Myrmicinae - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:13 PM

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8 is probably a Tetramorium sp. and 9 is Paratrechina longicornis.  7 does look a lot like Aphaenogaster.

 

Edit: Also, 1-3 might be Messor structor, based on the small queen size, but this is a complete guess.


Edited by Myrmicinae, June 2 2015 - 12:17 PM.

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#8 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:18 PM

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Great finds! I live close to you.

Messor sp. might be Messor structor because they are polygynous. I have never seen a colony that big with so many queens. Usually queens start to fight when the first workers eclose. I don't think number 4 is M. barbarus since they are not fully black.

Number 6 is a Camponotus sp. might be C. lateralis.

Number 7 is a Aphaenogaster sp.

Number 8 is a Tetramorium sp. and number 9 is a Lepisiota sp. Check L. dolabellae but there are other possibilities.

When did you found queen 7?


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#9 Offline Elraen - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:38 PM

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Vouv thank you guys.

 

Hi Jonathan, i found number 7, 4 weeks ago.


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#10 Offline dean_k - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:50 PM

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1,2, and 3 are likely Messor structor since they are polygyny and because the size difference between queens and workers are less.

 

4 is Messor barburus for sure. M. barburus queen also sometimes have dark red hue on her head when placed under bright LED light.



#11 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:55 PM

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Hi Jonathan, i found number 7, 4 weeks ago.

Thanks!



#12 Offline Elraen - Posted June 2 2015 - 12:57 PM

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Thank you guys, what do you think about number 5 : Are they Messor Structor too ?


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#13 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted June 2 2015 - 1:03 PM

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Hard to say. There are several species that look similar.



#14 Offline Trailandstreet - Posted June 11 2015 - 1:00 AM

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I'm not so familiar with my knowledge about the turkish ants, but I have an overview of the species which exist there.


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