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#1 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 9 2021 - 3:10 PM

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1. Can I apply Fluon to an active colony? Or must it only be when the container is empty?

2. Will my ants hate an acrylic bottom? I'm having a hard time with substrate ... do I need to have it? Will it make them happier?

3. How do you all take such good pictures? Mine are blurry messes!

#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 9 2021 - 3:20 PM

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I have a plain acrylic outworld--I personally think it looks cleaner, and it is, as it makes it harder for things to mold. Ants that aren't very good at climbing on smooth surfaces wouldntlike it, as they end up slipping around a bit, and find difficulty in walking. Most ants are just fine though.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 9 2021 - 3:32 PM

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Yes, you can apply fluon to a container with ants in it. It is not toxic in any form.
I agree with Nick, a bare bottom is fine. It’s mostly a question of aesthetics. Your Tetramorium will really appreciate a super thin layer of dry sand, though.
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#4 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 9 2021 - 3:46 PM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.

#5 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 9 2021 - 4:28 PM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.



Ok ... they make cocoons? 🤯

I didn't know any species did

#6 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 10 2021 - 5:21 AM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.



Ok ... they make cocoons?

I didn't know any species did

 

Genera in Formicinae. (Camponotus, Lasius, Formica, etc.)


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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 10 2021 - 5:23 AM

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She only has Tetramorium, so it’s not an issue. They still love moving sand around and build cool ramps and walls around their tube entrance. Just keep it very dry and a super thin layer.
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#8 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 10 2021 - 6:31 AM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.



Ok ... they make cocoons?

I didn't know any species did

 

Genera in Formicinae. (Camponotus, Lasius, Formica, etc.)

 

My formica don't make coccoons. And they are for sure formica.



#9 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted March 10 2021 - 7:12 AM

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Dude, Formica make cocoons but your probably haven't yet. Its a rare thing to see in a young colony, especially with your species and since you only have 1-2 workers at a time. I apply olive oil, baby powder with rubbing alcohol on my set ups all the time with ants inside. Just be careful as floun fumes are dangerous for a number of other pets.


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#10 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 10 2021 - 7:27 AM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.



Ok ... they make cocoons?

I didn't know any species did

 

Genera in Formicinae. (Camponotus, Lasius, Formica, etc.)

 

My formica don't make coccoons. And they are for sure formica.

 

Formica are weird in that they will sometimes make cocoons, and sometimes not. If you provide yours with substrate they will most likely start making them, however, I don't know what kind of affect being naked or cocooned has on worker development.


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#11 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted March 10 2021 - 8:23 AM

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My workers turned out fine without cocoons. Thanks for tip.



#12 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 10 2021 - 9:54 AM

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She only has Tetramorium, so it’s not an issue. They still love moving sand around and build cool ramps and walls around their tube entrance. Just keep it very dry and a super thin layer.


Ok, does that mean I want a very fine sand?

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She only has Tetramorium, so it’s not an issue. They still love moving sand around and build cool ramps and walls around their tube entrance. Just keep it very dry and a super thin layer.


Ok, does that mean I want a very fine sand?

 

 

 

She only has Tetramorium, so it’s not an issue. They still love moving sand around and build cool ramps and walls around their tube entrance. Just keep it very dry and a super thin layer.


Ok, does that mean I want a very fine sand?

 

Fine sand is best, yes.



#14 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 10 2021 - 10:54 AM

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Dollar Tree has good sand in different colors you can use. Just keep it dry and super thin. No more than 1/4 inch deep. Tetramorium's favorite thing in life to do is move sand, so I think it is good for them.


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#15 Offline Temperateants - Posted March 10 2021 - 12:10 PM

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You will need substrate for species that make cocoons as it serves as scaffolding.



Ok ... they make cocoons?

I didn't know any species did

 

Genera in Formicinae. (Camponotus, Lasius, Formica, etc.)

 

My formica don't make coccoons. And they are for sure formica.

 

Formica are weird in that they will sometimes make cocoons, and sometimes not. If you provide yours with substrate they will most likely start making them, however, I don't know what kind of affect being naked or cocooned has on worker development.

 

I'm pretty sure formicine ants make cocoons to protect against formic acid, and a naked cocoon will 99% develop well, but may be more sensitive to formic acid.


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#16 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 10 2021 - 2:47 PM

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Guys!!!

Thank you :-) I got some nice white sand and I think I got it set up well!

Now she won't come out, probably cause she feels safer in there ... but none of the workers are either. I hope they come out and get a bite to eat soon


I'm so excited
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#17 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 10 2021 - 3:08 PM

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White might not be the most aesthetically, but it will let me see them better.

I have a piece of white foam over her because she really seems to hate the light.

http://imgur.com/a/Kp2dLzqa private entrance so they don't feel the tube is too open and scary.

http://imgur.com/a/I7QZN01

http://imgur.com/a/1d28oYY

I know compared to what everyone else makes it really lame but I'm super happy.

Wish they would come out so I can see them.
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#18 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 10 2021 - 4:13 PM

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How many workers are there? They can be really timid at first, but that will drastically change in a few weeks. Enjoy this docile, easy phase while it lasts.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#19 Offline Lillyrose - Posted March 10 2021 - 5:09 PM

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How many workers are there? They can be really timid at first, but that will drastically change in a few weeks. Enjoy this docile, easy phase while it lasts.



maybe 7? They are really tiny and move fast so I had trouble counting them... but not a lot.

Hehe I can't wait till I'm complaining about how much they eat or how active they are.
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White might not be the most aesthetically, but it will let me see them better.

I have a piece of white foam over her because she really seems to hate the light.

http://imgur.com/a/Kp2dLzqa private entrance so they don't feel the tube is too open and scary.

http://imgur.com/a/I7QZN01

http://imgur.com/a/1d28oYY

I know compared to what everyone else makes it really lame but I'm super happy.

Wish they would come out so I can see them.

 

Nice job!  I like putting the test tube in a small plastic box, and putting the substrate in the box, and placing the tube in that box on the substrate.


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