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AC has gone too far


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#41 Offline PurdueEntomology - Posted February 23 2021 - 12:40 PM

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Some insight on naming of species taken from: 

International Code of Nomenclature of Bacteria: Bacteriological Code, 1990 Revision.

(These standards are generally acceptable across the board)

 

Recommendation 12c

Authors should attend to the following Recommendations, and those of Recommendation 6, when forming specific epithets.

  1. Choose a specific epithet that, in general, gives some indication of a property or of the source of the species.
  2. Avoid those that express a character common to all, or nearly-all, the species of a genus.
  3. Ensure that, if taken from the name of a person, it recalls the name of one who discovered or described it, or was in some way connected with it, and possesses the appropriate gender (see Appendix 9A).  link here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.../books/NBK8801/
  4. Avoid in the same genus epithets which are very much alike, especially those that differ only in their last letters.
  5. Avoid the use of the genitive and the adjectival forms of the same specific epithet to refer to two different species of the same genus (see Rule 63).

 

Also, there is NO rule against naming a new species after one's self as per the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature which regulates this issue.

 

and finally for FAQ's I refer you here:  https://www.iczn.org/outreach/faqs/

 

I'm sorry, but I am a mircrobiologist and this resource is extremely outdated and incorrect -- I mean, this is from 1990 and refers to "appropriate gender". These standards from over 30 years ago are not "generally acceptable across the board". It's not even true within bacterial -- the vast majority of known bacterial species are unculturable, and the rate of discovery of "new species" (species are a difficult concept in bacteria, but that is a different discussion) is greater than humans could manually name. If you are curious about this topic, check out this paper from last year: https://www.nature.c...1564-020-0733-x

 

I find this nearly impossible that very outdated rules for bacterial nomenclature are the accepted standard for insects or other animals

 

Thanks for the information, I am no microbiologist.  I will edit that information.  The ICZN information is sufficient for the discussion.  Thank you for the link.  Here is an alternative link: https://www.microbio.../ijsem.0.000778


Edited by PurdueEntomology, February 23 2021 - 12:45 PM.

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#42 Offline That_one_ant_guy - Posted February 23 2021 - 7:13 PM

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To be fair, this is almost like any other youtuber.  Take Dream, for example.  One of the main reasons Dream got to fame was due to his PewDiePie videos, using the Youtube Algorithm to his advantage.   By AC using clickbait it highers the chance of it being clicked (hence the name clickbate), and if the video gets larger watch times and views, the Algorithm will reconize this, and it'll more likely push it to the top in Reccomended.  Then, by using drama, he keeps the viewers interesting leaving longer watch times.  If it had no drama, the veiwers might click off by getting bored.  You can't admit that if you weren't interested in ants, you would likely want to watch a scientific videos on ants (unless you're into that).  However, they would be more likely to be more interested in watching something dramatic.  After they get into ants then they would be more interested in scientific videos, since they know more.  So technically, this should be getting more people interested in ants, since its now more likely to get reccomended by the Algorithm.

ehhhhh I mean I guess so
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#43 Offline Chickalo - Posted February 24 2021 - 7:26 AM

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To be fair, this is almost like any other youtuber.  Take Dream, for example.  One of the main reasons Dream got to fame was due to his PewDiePie videos, using the Youtube Algorithm to his advantage.   By AC using clickbait it highers the chance of it being clicked (hence the name clickbate), and if the video gets larger watch times and views, the Algorithm will reconize this, and it'll more likely push it to the top in Reccomended.  Then, by using drama, he keeps the viewers interesting leaving longer watch times.  If it had no drama, the veiwers might click off by getting bored.  You can't admit that if you weren't interested in ants, you would likely want to watch a scientific videos on ants (unless you're into that).  However, they would be more likely to be more interested in watching something dramatic.  After they get into ants then they would be more interested in scientific videos, since they know more.  So technically, this should be getting more people interested in ants, since its now more likely to get reccomended by the Algorithm.

ehhhhh I mean I guess so

 

It's pretty confusing, but once you get an idea, it's easier to see why many youtubers, now including AC, do what they do when posting videos


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#44 Offline JPTHEEANTBOI - Posted April 23 2021 - 12:07 PM

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If one person disagrees to him being view hungry and doesn't represent us, wait a while, and ya'll go see this ain't gonna turn out well. So I might stop blibber blabbering before this gets ugly and something bad happens. No disrespect, but just saying. 😐

 


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#45 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted April 24 2021 - 6:10 AM

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If one person disagrees to him being view hungry and doesn't represent us, wait a while, and ya'll go see this ain't gonna turn out well. So I might stop blibber blabbering before this gets ugly and something bad happens. No disrespect, but just saying.

This thread was supposed to die. Why did you revive it?

 

P.S. What are you talking about? If we don't think he represents us (cause frankly, he doesn't) how will that turn out bad? Please don't answer on this thread, though. It needs to die. If you want to answer my question just pm me or something.


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#46 Offline Idontexist - Posted June 17 2021 - 6:28 PM

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I'm not intending to start a debate, but this is obviously clickbait and he’s obviously view hungry. It’s literally just meranoplus bicolor. Everyone on Instagram is finally turning against him, and I couldn’t be happier. This man does not represent us.

so. His facehugger mites. arent that...... new?

#47 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 17 2021 - 6:30 PM

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Don’t revive threads like this. Damn!!!!!!!
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#48 Offline Idontexist - Posted June 17 2021 - 6:35 PM

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Oh its the new species in his yard
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#49 Offline Manitobant - Posted June 17 2021 - 7:56 PM

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Are you f*cking trolling or something? Stop reviving controversial threads!
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#50 Offline azzaaazzzz00 - Posted June 18 2021 - 6:40 AM

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Yea, just let this thread die and no more of this :ugone2far:.


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#51 Offline Idontexist - Posted June 18 2021 - 11:37 AM

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Are you f*cking trolling or something? Stop reviving controversial threads!

ok manito
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