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Queen ant id request.

Started By KitsAntVa , Nov 20 2020 10:33 AM

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#1 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 20 2020 - 10:33 AM

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Caught this queen outside while looking for some feeder bugs. She is small around 2-3mm and looks to me like either temnothorax or mrymica after I caught her I put her in this test tube with dirt and some honey plus cricket just in case she was mrymica, she plays dead when she gets spooked and curls up like she’s dead but then runs off once everything is ok. I’ll put her in the fridge soon and I did not expect to find a queen this late. [attachment=5326:76265CC3-FB73-4CC7-8F05-041080F73F96.jpeg][attachment=5327:8809DFDC-F2E2-4B2A-A0D1-312299ABC78D.jpeg][attachment=5328:8D8294FB-DB5D-4B9A-83AE-AA2BE8FBEAB4.jpeg][attachment=5329:5D46FC53-5F6C-4D3B-9FFB-D3376A90FEF1.jpeg]
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#2 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 20 2020 - 10:54 AM

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myrmica species.


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#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted November 20 2020 - 12:03 PM

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Could possibly be stenamma if she is very small. That also explains why she plays dead. In any case she is definitely a semi claustral queen.

Edited by Manitobant, November 20 2020 - 12:04 PM.

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#4 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 20 2020 - 12:07 PM

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I may let her go or make a natural set up for her.
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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted November 20 2020 - 2:13 PM

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Let her go.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#6 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted November 20 2020 - 2:44 PM

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Let her go.

Why?


I'm thinking Stenamma considering the time of year.


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#7 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 20 2020 - 3:00 PM

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Let her go.

this is a queen ant? why would you do that?


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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#8 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 20 2020 - 3:21 PM

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Stenamma sp. Identification of these is near impossible without microscopic examination and even then it's difficult due to taxonomical issues.


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#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:19 PM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:40 PM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.

Myrmecina are eliminated by the prescence of a petiolar node.


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#11 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:56 PM

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Definitely Stenamma sp. She'll hibernate before laying. Semiclaustral. You can tell Stenamma as the propodeal spines are far too stubby to be Myrmica.


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#12 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 21 2020 - 7:14 AM

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Definitely Stenamma sp. She'll hibernate before laying. Semiclaustral. You can tell Stenamma as the propodeal spines are far too stubby to be Myrmica.

ahh well. i should probably stop trying to identify ants. i always seem to get them wrong.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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Attention Ant-Keepers in South Dakota! Join the SoDak(Society Of Dakotan Ant Keepers)

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#13 Offline NickAnter - Posted November 21 2020 - 7:28 AM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.

Myrmecina are eliminated by the prescence of a petiolar node.

 

Thanks, I never knew how to tell them apart.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#14 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:10 AM

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I've researched care, so far I have mostly that they are like apheanogaster and camponotus, they like cooler environments but also rich soils like ponera they are classified as leaf litter ants, cryptics but are found in logs and twigs. I’m going to make a set up like Nordic ants made for termites. I also will feed these crickets and sugars, plus maybe some centipedes and fruit flies, and maybe some frozen termites. What set up do you guys think is best for these after founding stage? Maybe like two test tubes for them all, then I was thinking a mini hearth ytong with the top expansion and it does have somewhat smaller tunnels.
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#15 Offline Manitobant - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:38 AM

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Id use a petri dish after founding. Usually works great for cryptics.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#16 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:40 AM

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I’ll see what I can make.
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