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#1 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 20 2020 - 10:33 AM

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Caught this queen outside while looking for some feeder bugs. She is small around 2-3mm and looks to me like either temnothorax or mrymica after I caught her I put her in this test tube with dirt and some honey plus cricket just in case she was mrymica, she plays dead when she gets spooked and curls up like she’s dead but then runs off once everything is ok. I’ll put her in the fridge soon and I did not expect to find a queen this late. Attached File  76265CC3-FB73-4CC7-8F05-041080F73F96.jpeg   106.62KB   2 downloadsAttached File  8809DFDC-F2E2-4B2A-A0D1-312299ABC78D.jpeg   84.22KB   3 downloadsAttached File  8D8294FB-DB5D-4B9A-83AE-AA2BE8FBEAB4.jpeg   132.9KB   2 downloadsAttached File  5D46FC53-5F6C-4D3B-9FFB-D3376A90FEF1.jpeg   160.8KB   1 downloads
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#2 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 20 2020 - 10:54 AM

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myrmica species.


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#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted November 20 2020 - 12:03 PM

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Could possibly be stenamma if she is very small. That also explains why she plays dead. In any case she is definitely a semi claustral queen.

Edited by Manitobant, November 20 2020 - 12:04 PM.

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Lasius latipes
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Myrmica semiparasitica
Any formica microgyna group sp.

#4 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 20 2020 - 12:07 PM

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I may let her go or make a natural set up for her.
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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted November 20 2020 - 2:13 PM

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Let her go.

"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25   I <3 tiny ants


#6 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted November 20 2020 - 2:44 PM

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Let her go.

Why?


I'm thinking Stenamma considering the time of year.


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Formica subsericea queen with 2 workersLasius aphidicola queens-Camponotus pennsylvanicus queen| Camponotus novaeboracensis queen with ~35 workers10 Solenopsis molesta queens (together) with 5-10 workers| Lasius cf. neoniger queens| Apheonogaster fulva queenBrachymyrmex depilis queen| Myrmica cf. punctiventris queenStenamma brevicorne queen


#7 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 20 2020 - 3:00 PM

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Let her go.

this is a queen ant? why would you do that?


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#8 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 20 2020 - 3:21 PM

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Stenamma sp. Identification of these is near impossible without microscopic examination and even then it's difficult due to taxonomical issues.


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#9 Online NickAnter - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:19 PM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.


Colonies:                                                                             Founding Queens

Nylanderia vividula   (500+ workers)  

Lasius cf. americanus   (80+ workers)                                                          

Lasius niger   (15 workers)                                                      Lasius cf. crypticusx2(in Hibernation)                     

Pheidole navigans   (30+workers and a major)                                        

Temnothorax cf. nevadensis x4,(Largest colony has six workers, and the smallest, one.)

Cardiocondyla mauritanica( 2 queens, 1 worker, queens and worker likely budding out when caught)

Solenopsis truncorum(13 workers)         

Solenopsis molesta (6 workers)           


#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:40 PM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.

Myrmecina are eliminated by the prescence of a petiolar node.


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#11 Offline CheetoLord02 - Posted November 20 2020 - 6:56 PM

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Definitely Stenamma sp. She'll hibernate before laying. Semiclaustral. You can tell Stenamma as the propodeal spines are far too stubby to be Myrmica.


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#12 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted November 21 2020 - 7:14 AM

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Definitely Stenamma sp. She'll hibernate before laying. Semiclaustral. You can tell Stenamma as the propodeal spines are far too stubby to be Myrmica.

ahh well. i should probably stop trying to identify ants. i always seem to get them wrong.


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#13 Online NickAnter - Posted November 21 2020 - 7:28 AM

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 I think it looks more like Myrmecina personally. I could be wrong though.

Myrmecina are eliminated by the prescence of a petiolar node.

 

Thanks, I never knew how to tell them apart.


Colonies:                                                                             Founding Queens

Nylanderia vividula   (500+ workers)  

Lasius cf. americanus   (80+ workers)                                                          

Lasius niger   (15 workers)                                                      Lasius cf. crypticusx2(in Hibernation)                     

Pheidole navigans   (30+workers and a major)                                        

Temnothorax cf. nevadensis x4,(Largest colony has six workers, and the smallest, one.)

Cardiocondyla mauritanica( 2 queens, 1 worker, queens and worker likely budding out when caught)

Solenopsis truncorum(13 workers)         

Solenopsis molesta (6 workers)           


#14 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:10 AM

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I've researched care, so far I have mostly that they are like apheanogaster and camponotus, they like cooler environments but also rich soils like ponera they are classified as leaf litter ants, cryptics but are found in logs and twigs. I’m going to make a set up like Nordic ants made for termites. I also will feed these crickets and sugars, plus maybe some centipedes and fruit flies, and maybe some frozen termites. What set up do you guys think is best for these after founding stage? Maybe like two test tubes for them all, then I was thinking a mini hearth ytong with the top expansion and it does have somewhat smaller tunnels.
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#15 Offline Manitobant - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:38 AM

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Id use a petri dish after founding. Usually works great for cryptics.
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Colony wish list:

Lasius latipes
Temnothorax pilagens
Temnothorax Americanus
Myrmica semiparasitica
Any formica microgyna group sp.

#16 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 21 2020 - 11:40 AM

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I’ll see what I can make.
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