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#61 Offline ponerinecat - Posted December 24 2020 - 7:34 PM

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Collected some arboreal globulars via bush beating, they've been identified as Ptenothrix beta.

 

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#62 Offline wardkad2 - Posted December 24 2020 - 9:42 PM

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[mention]ponerinecat [/mention]nice! How do you plan to house the arboreal sp.? Differently from the more terrestrial types? Do they have similar dietary habits?

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#63 Offline ponerinecat - Posted December 25 2020 - 9:45 AM

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[mention]ponerinecat [/mention]nice! How do you plan to house the arboreal sp.? Differently from the more terrestrial types? Do they have similar dietary habits?

I'm not sure. A bonsai tree or sapling in a pot has been suggested to me, could probably try one of those. Dietary requirements should be similar, but there's also the possibility they feed directly on the host plant like many bourletiellidae do.



#64 Offline M_Ants - Posted January 16 2021 - 6:25 PM

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How are the Morulina?


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#65 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted January 16 2021 - 6:30 PM

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Morulina like mushrooms I think


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#66 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 16 2021 - 2:32 PM

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Adult 7-8 mm Morulina.

 

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Purple Entomobrya sp juvie with an egg.

 

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Purple glob egg and juvies.

 

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Newborn Neanura muscorum.

 

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#67 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 16 2021 - 3:08 PM

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I wish I could buy giant neanurids. They look so cool.

Should be able to sell you some if they breed.

 

where do you collect these?


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#68 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 16 2021 - 5:53 PM

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I wish I could buy giant neanurids. They look so cool.

Should be able to sell you some if they breed.

 

where do you collect these?

 

Almost always under stones, occasionally wood. They arent too picky, main difficulty is they rarely gather in large numbers. You have to build up an initial culture one by one.



#69 Offline ANTdrew - Posted February 16 2021 - 6:22 PM

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My peach Sinella springtails are really kicking butt now.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#70 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 16 2021 - 6:29 PM

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I wish I could buy giant neanurids. They look so cool.

Should be able to sell you some if they breed.

 

where do you collect these?

 

Almost always under stones, occasionally wood. They arent too picky, main difficulty is they rarely gather in large numbers. You have to build up an initial culture one by one.

 

thanks. I will look under stones, hopefully I catch one


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#71 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 17 2021 - 1:01 PM

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I caught some springtails today, what do you usually feed them ponerinecat?


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#72 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 21 2021 - 2:05 PM

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I caught some springtails today, what do you usually feed them ponerinecat?

Depends heavily on the species, but nutritional yeast is a fairly standard go to food. Just don't feed too much at one time as it molds easily.



#73 Offline ponerinecat - Posted February 28 2021 - 1:32 PM

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Morulina eggs.

 

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#74 Offline antsandmore - Posted February 28 2021 - 2:04 PM

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Morulina eggs.

 

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awesome! 


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#75 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 3 2021 - 6:49 AM

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 Do you think there could be a point where a dirt setup with ants has too many springtails? The Sinella springtails I put in my Formica's ant farm style setup are really exploding. I'm wondering if it could get out of hand and stress the ants without some kind of natural balance on their numbers. What do you think?


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Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#76 Offline antsandmore - Posted March 3 2021 - 8:17 AM

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 Do you think there could be a point where a dirt setup with ants has too many springtails? The Sinella springtails I put in my Formica's ant farm style setup are really exploding. I'm wondering if it could get out of hand and stress the ants without some kind of natural balance on their numbers. What do you think?

I am not Pcat, but if you would let me, I can tell you what I think. I personally think that a good amount springtails isn't bad, since they make sure that your ant's setups will be clean. I think too many springtails might be an issue, but maybe if you can take some substrate out, take out some springtails, and put the substrate back in every once in a while, it might work. but yes, I would also like to hear PonerineCat's opinion.


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#77 Offline ponerinecat - Posted March 9 2021 - 5:14 PM

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 Do you think there could be a point where a dirt setup with ants has too many springtails? The Sinella springtails I put in my Formica's ant farm style setup are really exploding. I'm wondering if it could get out of hand and stress the ants without some kind of natural balance on their numbers. What do you think?

Depending on the size of the ants themselves, maybe. Wild ant nests are often filled with springtails and as long as the ants are large enough they really don't mind. I've even see what I think are Parcoblatta americana nymphs take refuge in Veromessor andrei nests without the ants taking notice, despite being twice the size of the ants. However, if the ants are a small species like Tetramorium or Crematogaster they would probably not like having relatively large springtails like SInella in the nest, or at least not in large numbers. You might have luck introducing a predatory species, such as various mesostigma or some of the predaceous prostigs. I would suggest using mesostigs, as they're easier to find, kill more stuff, and less noticeable to ants. You can find them in leaf litter outside, they resemble tiny ticks running around waving the first pair of legs.


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#78 Offline antsandmore - Posted March 9 2021 - 5:52 PM

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 Do you think there could be a point where a dirt setup with ants has too many springtails? The Sinella springtails I put in my Formica's ant farm style setup are really exploding. I'm wondering if it could get out of hand and stress the ants without some kind of natural balance on their numbers. What do you think?

Depending on the size of the ants themselves, maybe. Wild ant nests are often filled with springtails and as long as the ants are large enough they really don't mind. I've even see what I think are Parcoblatta americana nymphs take refuge in Veromessor andrei nests without the ants taking notice, despite being twice the size of the ants. However, if the ants are a small species like Tetramorium or Crematogaster they would probably not like having relatively large springtails like SInella in the nest, or at least not in large numbers. You might have luck introducing a predatory species, such as various mesostigma or some of the predaceous prostigs. I would suggest using mesostigs, as they're easier to find, kill more stuff, and less noticeable to ants. You can find them in leaf litter outside, they resemble tiny ticks running around waving the first pair of legs.

 

I think the ants he has in the setup is Formica subsericea.


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#79 Offline ANTdrew - Posted March 9 2021 - 6:35 PM

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That’s correct. They’re big girls.
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#80 Offline ponerinecat - Posted March 13 2021 - 6:31 PM

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That’s correct. They’re big girls.

Then it'll be fine.






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