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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 10 2020 - 11:09 AM

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I bought some k-23 firebrick for making formicariums. It is super soft but it works okay. The problem I'm having is that it is a water vacuum. If you squirt and water on it it instantly disappears. It also doesn't really change color. How do I make it work more like y-tong nests where the water slowly disperses evenly throughout the nest and turns darker so you can see if it needs water? 


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#2 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 10 2020 - 11:17 AM

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I bought some k-23 firebrick for making formicariums. It is super soft but it works okay. The problem I'm having is that it is a water vacuum. If you squirt and water on it it instantly disappears. It also doesn't really change color. How do I make it work more like y-tong nests where the water slowly disperses evenly throughout the nest and turns darker so you can see if it needs water? 

I am having this issue too.. 

I hope somebody will help.


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#3 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 10 2020 - 11:17 AM

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Exactly same issue! Is there any good firebrick? Or any better hydration system?


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#4 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 10 2020 - 11:18 AM

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Exactly same issue! Is there any good firebrick? Or any better hydration system?

Maybe a water tower set-up?


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(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
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(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#5 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 10 2020 - 11:44 AM

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Exactly same issue! Is there any good firebrick? Or any better hydration system?

Maybe a water tower set-up?

 

Maybe. I do have the supplies for that.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:21 PM

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Just had an idea. Would adding a layer of hydrostone on the inside and outside work? With hydrstone it is much easier to tell if its hydrated or not. Also a layer on the outside might keep the water in better?


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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:30 PM

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Yeah, it’s a big guessing game with hydrating firebrick. Incorporating a water tower would take the guess work out. A hybrid with hydrostone and firebrick could also be cool.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:33 PM

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I'm definitely going to make a hybrid.


Yeah, it’s a big guessing game with hydrating firebrick. Incorporating a water tower would take the guess work out. A hybrid with hydrostone and firebrick could also be cool.

If you use a water tower then what is the point of making it out of firebrick? 


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#9 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:49 PM

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I'm definitely going to make a hybrid.


Yeah, it’s a big guessing game with hydrating firebrick. Incorporating a water tower would take the guess work out. A hybrid with hydrostone and firebrick could also be cool.

If you use a water tower then what is the point of making it out of firebrick? 

Two words: Easy. Carving.


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(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:50 PM

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Valid point.
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#11 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 10 2020 - 12:52 PM

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Valid point.

Who's? M_Ants or mine?


My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#12 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2020 - 6:39 PM

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Actually both.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#13 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 11 2020 - 6:24 AM

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Also, you need something to hold the water. like i use grout, but firebrick would work.


Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. -Proverbs 6: 6-8

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#14 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 11 2020 - 3:19 PM

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Problem with hydrostone firebrick hybrid. When you put the hydrostone on the firebrick it instantly sucks all the water out of the hyrdostone. 


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#15 Online dspdrew - Posted September 11 2020 - 9:13 PM

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If you want to pour Hydrostone onto something that is very absorbent, it needs to be saturated with water first.


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#16 Offline M_Ants - Posted September 11 2020 - 9:37 PM

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If you want to pour Hydrostone onto something that is very absorbent, it needs to be saturated with water first.

The only problem is then the hydrostone doesn't cure at least when I tried it.


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#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted October 24 2020 - 8:22 AM

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Anyone think a firebrick mini hearth would work? I'd just carve out a chamber, coat it in sand/hydrostone, add a water tower and plexiglass and boom a mini hearth. Let me know if this won't be as easy as it seems.


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#18 Offline ANTdrew - Posted October 24 2020 - 9:15 AM

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I think it would work great for species that don’t chew through stuff.
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#19 Offline M_Ants - Posted October 24 2020 - 9:17 AM

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My hope is that the hydrostone coating will strengthen it. 


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#20 Offline M_Ants - Posted October 30 2020 - 8:19 AM

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Finally finished my fake mini hearth. Wondering if it's Crematogaster proof. I coated the inside in hydrostone. 

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