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Two types of queen on my driveway today

Started By Polyacanthus , Jul 11 2020 8:12 PM

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#1 Offline Polyacanthus - Posted July 11 2020 - 8:12 PM

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I've never had either of these before.

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Saginaw, MI, USA
2. Date of collection: 7/11/20 4-5pm
3. Habitat of collection: City neighborhood
4. Length (from head to gaster): 10mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Dull black

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The other queen has all the same data as above except is brown in color.

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Thanks!
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#2 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 11 2020 - 8:41 PM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group
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#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 12 2020 - 2:19 AM

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Nice finds!
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#4 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 12 2020 - 6:28 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

I second this.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 12 2020 - 7:15 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

I third this.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#6 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 12 2020 - 8:35 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

I fourth this.
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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#7 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 12 2020 - 8:51 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

I fifth this.


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Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

#8 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:04 AM

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Nice beginner species!


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#9 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:32 AM

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I fifth this.

Wow, never seen that!

Edited by AntsDakota, July 12 2020 - 9:33 AM.

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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#10 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:41 AM

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I fifth this.

Wow, never seen that!

New record!
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#11 Offline Polyacanthus - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:43 AM

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Thanks everyone!

What about this queen? I have been calling her pallidefulva. I actually found her about 7 weeks ago at the start of Camponotus season. I believe I have species pallidefulva in the yard- they have nests in open grass areas with no visible mound. (Hard to find but I see lots of workers.) This queen had 3/5 pupae naked. Would this denote pallidefulva species or could be something else in the group?

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#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:47 AM

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Looks like it, pallidefulva group.


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#13 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:52 AM

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Looks like it, pallidefulva group.


Agreed, definitely pallidefulva.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#14 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 12 2020 - 10:06 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

Don’t tell me they’re like 29 species in the pallidefulva group.
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#15 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 12 2020 - 10:08 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

Don’t tell me they’re like 29 species in the pallidefulva group.

 

Only five.


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#16 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 12 2020 - 10:33 AM

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Queen #1: Formica fusca-group
Queen #2: Formica pallidefullva-group

Don’t tell me they’re like 29 species in the pallidefulva group.

 

Only five.

 

Distinguished by the number and appearance of the hairs on their gasters.


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Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

#17 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 12 2020 - 10:35 AM

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It will be hard to find the species without a microscope.


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

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