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What ant species only REQUIRE seeds to eat?


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#1 Offline TechAnt - Posted June 29 2020 - 3:59 PM

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So I was thinking about getting another colony if none of my anting trips come that successful. And I have a bunch of seeds lying around so.

What species (besides Pogomyrmex which I know only need seeds) only requires seeds to eat? I know Veromessor Pergandei’s main diet is seeds, but I hear you need to feed insects too.

Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Pheidole californica ~200 workers, 4 Queens
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~a batch of pupae and 5 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)

Non-Ants:
A bunch of fish ~50 fish

Ants Wanted:
Myrmecocystus sp. and Acromyrmex sp.


#2 Online Kaelwizard - Posted June 30 2020 - 5:35 AM

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Pogonomyrmex should also be supplemented with insects as some say they do better with them, but it is not required. I don’t think it is required with Veromessor, but is also helpful. I am no expert with these species so I would wait to here from someone who knows more, but I don’t think insects are required for any granivorous species, but they may not thrive without them.
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Camponotus novaeboracensis > 1 queen with eggs.

 

Ponera pennsylvanica > 1 queen.

 

Formica glacialis or subaenescens > 9 workers


#3 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 30 2020 - 8:03 AM

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Pretty much no ant can live off of seeds alone. It's more of an advantage among arid lands species, where insect prey is scarce and seeds are common. However they will often resort to a more predatory diet in the right habitat or when the rains bring out other ants and termites. For example the veromessor mounds here are littered with insect exoskeletons as well as seed hulls.


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#4 Offline TechAnt - Posted June 30 2020 - 8:20 AM

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Pretty much no ant can live off of seeds alone. It's more of an advantage among arid lands species, where insect prey is scarce and seeds are common. However they will often resort to a more predatory diet in the right habitat or when the rains bring out other ants and termites. For example the veromessor mounds here are littered with insect exoskeletons as well as seed hulls.

Ah, I see

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Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Pheidole californica ~200 workers, 4 Queens
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~a batch of pupae and 5 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)

Non-Ants:
A bunch of fish ~50 fish

Ants Wanted:
Myrmecocystus sp. and Acromyrmex sp.


#5 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted July 2 2020 - 9:54 PM

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You've probably heard me complaining about how fast my Veromessor pergandei have grown. I cut way back on non-seed foods after getting nurbs' advice, and they're still growing like crazy. I do give occasional insect protein and they love it. I don't even provide sugar water any more (I was assured they don't need it) but if I put in a drop or two they swarm it. Basically Veros appear to be super easy as long as you don't get a weird colony with mystery issues (like my one colony that mysteriously died).


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Veromessor: pergandei, andrei

Camponotus: fragilis (separate journal), sansabeanus, vicinus

Prenolepis: imparis

Pogonomyrmex: californicus; subnitidus

Tetramorium: sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis: angusticollis

(Each genus above has its own journal here on Formiculture)

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#6 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 2 2020 - 9:57 PM

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You've probably heard me complaining about how fast my Veromessor pergandei have grown. I cut way back on non-seed foods after getting nurbs' advice, and they're still growing like crazy. I do give occasional insect protein and they love it. I don't even provide sugar water any more (I was assured they don't need it) but if I put in a drop or two they swarm it. Basically Veros appear to be super easy as long as you don't get a weird colony with mystery issues.


Thanks!

Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Pheidole californica ~200 workers, 4 Queens
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~a batch of pupae and 5 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)

Non-Ants:
A bunch of fish ~50 fish

Ants Wanted:
Myrmecocystus sp. and Acromyrmex sp.





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