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Is it an ant queen? Also ID pls


Best Answer TennesseeAnts , May 24 2020 - 5:45 PM

Lasius aphidicola, looks like.

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#1 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:34 PM

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I found an ant queen(Maybe) on my driveway.

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Near Worcester MA
2. Date of collection: Late afternoon on May 24th
3. Habitat of collection: My driveway, it was near some grass and there are trees not to far away.
4. Length (from head to gaster): 5.5mm to 6.5mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black with thin stripes on it's gastor
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Pretty sure it has wing scars
7. Distinguishing behavior: N/A
8. Nest description: N/A

9. Nuptial flight time and date: Maybe in the last day or 2 (if it is a queen)

 

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#2 Offline Broncos - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:40 PM

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Yes that is for sure a queen but sorry I can’t help with the species.


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#3 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:42 PM

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Looks like a Lasius social parasite. Lasius umbratus I think.


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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#4 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:56 PM

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Looks like a Lasius social parasite. Lasius umbratus I think.

ANOTHER ONE???

I already have one xD



#5 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 24 2020 - 3:58 PM

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The pointy gaster gives me a Crematogaster feeling...



#6 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:14 PM

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The pointy gaster gives me a Crematogaster feeling...

Really? I can try to get more pics if you'd like. Also, when do Crematogasters fly?


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#7 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:17 PM

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The pointy gaster gives me a Crematogaster feeling...

Really? I can try to get more pics if you'd like. Also, when do Crematogasters fly?

 

On second thought, i'm not sure if it's crematogaster. And yes, if you could get some more pics from different angles, that'd be great.



#8 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:25 PM

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I'm pretty sure that's not Crematogaster. They tend to fly in late summer to early fall. It definitely looks like Lasius umbratus to me.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#9 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:27 PM

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I'm pretty sure that's not Crematogaster. They tend to fly in late summer to early fall. It definitely looks like Lasius umbratus to me.

oof... If ur right I will have to release it since I already have one

Unless they're polygonous?



#10 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:29 PM

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Almost certain they're not polygynous. But I would keep it considering Lasius social parasites tend to have a rather low success rate.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#11 Offline Somethinghmm - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:40 PM

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The pointy gaster gives me a Crematogaster feeling...

Really? I can try to get more pics if you'd like. Also, when do Crematogasters fly?

 

On second thought, i'm not sure if it's crematogaster. And yes, if you could get some more pics from different angles, that'd be great.

 

It's definitely not Crematogaster because this queen has 1 petiole.



#12 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:45 PM

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The pointy gaster gives me a Crematogaster feeling...

Really? I can try to get more pics if you'd like. Also, when do Crematogasters fly?

 

On second thought, i'm not sure if it's crematogaster. And yes, if you could get some more pics from different angles, that'd be great.

 

It's definitely not Crematogaster because this queen has 1 petiole.

 

Oof. what's a petiole?



#13 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted May 24 2020 - 4:47 PM

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The little segment connecting the thorax to the abdomen. It's a trait that all Hymenoptera share.


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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#14 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:41 PM

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Almost certain they're not polygynous. But I would keep it considering Lasius social parasites tend to have a rather low success rate.

Well, I wouldn’t say that..........

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#15 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:43 PM

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Almost certain they're not polygynous. But I would keep it considering Lasius social parasites tend to have a rather low success rate.

Well, I wouldn’t say that..........

Wdym?



#16 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:45 PM

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Almost certain they're not polygynous. But I would keep it considering Lasius social parasites tend to have a rather low success rate.

Well, I wouldn’t say that..........
Wdym?
Most of the L. aphidicola queens I see in journals survive. So, I would say they have a rather high success rate.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#17 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted May 24 2020 - 5:45 PM   Best Answer

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Lasius aphidicola, looks like.


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#18 Offline MinigunL5 - Posted May 24 2020 - 6:56 PM

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Almost certain they're not polygynous. But I would keep it considering Lasius social parasites tend to have a rather low success rate.

Well, I wouldn’t say that..........
Wdym?
Most of the L. aphidicola queens I see in journals survive. So, I would say they have a rather high success rate.

 

I think that's because most of the people that raise them are experienced. The introduction is supposed to be very difficult.



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These queens are not polygynous. I got two queens of this species accepted by workers of the same colony, combined them, and the queens quickly fought. This is different from Lasius claviger, which have been staying together for a long time now. 

 

This can probably be explained by the different subgenera. Lasius claviger is in Acanthomyops and Lasius aphidicola is in Cthonolasius


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#20 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 25 2020 - 5:10 AM

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So are you saying L. claviger is polygynous?

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