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Where to Start a Petition?

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#1 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:05 PM

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I am looking for the place where one would start a petition to exempt a species from the list of plant pests. Any information is appreciated. I'm looking to exempt Trachymyrmex septontrialis.


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#2 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 26 2019 - 5:17 PM

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Here is a wiki how - https://m.wikihow.com/Write-a-Petition
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#3 Offline gcsnelling - Posted October 27 2019 - 1:17 PM

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Knock your self out, but the odds are mighty slim of it working.


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#4 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 27 2019 - 1:19 PM

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The most difficult part is getting the signatures, but after that, he's good! (y)


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#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 27 2019 - 1:20 PM

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Yeah, I know.



#6 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 27 2019 - 1:23 PM

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I am sure there are a plethora of ant keepers who want to support your cause!


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#7 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted October 27 2019 - 2:46 PM

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I think this is where you start one https://www.aphis.us...tions/petitions


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#8 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 27 2019 - 5:05 PM

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Nope. That's for crops. 



#9 Offline Martialis - Posted October 27 2019 - 5:37 PM

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I highly doubt that any attine is going to make the exemption list.


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#10 Offline Rin - Posted October 29 2019 - 4:18 PM

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I'd like to see some Ponerinae subfamily. We have some very interesting species. Also primitive ants are utterly fascinating!
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#11 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 30 2019 - 11:43 AM

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What are "primitive ants"?

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#12 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 30 2019 - 2:51 PM

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What are "primitive ants"?

They tend to behave more like wasps, with the workers being independent foragers. Workers can be large, and colonies can have gamergates. And yes, the subfamily Ponerinae does have a few. Although what I'd like to see is Myrmecocystus. They'd do just about as much or less harm to the environment on their own as Lasius. (i.e. none)


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#13 Offline Da_NewAntOnTheBlock - Posted October 30 2019 - 2:54 PM

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Thanks!

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#14 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 30 2019 - 3:58 PM

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"Primitive ants"... They're just as advanced as most ants. They just have a steady lifestyle and see no need to improve. 


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#15 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:00 PM

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I'd like to see some Ponerinae subfamily. We have some very interesting species. Also primitive ants are utterly fascinating!

And FYI, ponerinae are some of the most "advanced " ants out there. They just have a lot of other members who see no need to change.


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#16 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:01 PM

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I think he means ants like Paraponera, which are primitive.

#17 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:05 PM

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I think he means ants like Paraponera, which are primitive.

Paraponera are not primitive. they branched off lower down on the evolutionary tree, but that just means their ancestors are primitive, same as any ant.


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#18 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:14 PM

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Hmm. I read that they were primitive. Maybe it was just their social structure.

#19 Offline ponerinecat - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:23 PM

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Hmm. I read that they were primitive. Maybe it was just their social structure.

nope again. large colonies. nuptials. monogynous.


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#20 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted October 30 2019 - 4:41 PM

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Okay then! I apparently know nothing about anything.
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