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Queen ID California June 5, 2019

Started By AntPhycho , Jun 5 2019 4:19 PM

Best Answer gcsnelling , June 5 2019 - 5:13 PM

S. truncorum is a tiny black species which I collected in my pool many times during late spring and summer in Apple Valley. In addition this queen looks to have a two clubbed antenna which absolutely points to Solenopsis.

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#1 Offline AntPhycho - Posted June 5 2019 - 4:19 PM

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Collected in the High Desert in Southern California. Found in pool.

2. Found April 5, 2019
3. Desert/Urban Habitat
4. About 4mm?
5. Blackish color, lighter color gaster.
6. Smallest queen I have ever caught (smaller than Dorymyrmex) 

 

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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 5 2019 - 4:23 PM

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It's a Myrmicine, maybe a Temnothorax sp?


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 5 2019 - 4:27 PM

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Nevermind, I am now pretty sure that this is a Monomorium species.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 5 2019 - 4:35 PM

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I would say something closer to Temnothorax.

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#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 5 2019 - 4:40 PM

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Could you get a clearer top down picture? I may be able to identify her to a species level.

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, June 5 2019 - 4:40 PM.

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#6 Offline AntPhycho - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:04 PM

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#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:08 PM

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It just looks too smooth for Temnothorax. If it removed it's wings, it would be much easier to tell. You should consider Solenopsis salina. Nevermind, according to Antdude the proportions are wrong.  Still thinking Monomorium.


Edited by NickAnter, June 5 2019 - 5:13 PM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#8 Offline gcsnelling - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:09 PM

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This appears to be Solenopsis truncorum.


Edited by gcsnelling, June 5 2019 - 5:10 PM.

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Edited by Ant_Dude2908, June 5 2019 - 5:12 PM.

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#10 Offline AntPhycho - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:11 PM

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Solenopsis? This ant is way smaller than my Solenopsis xyloni and Solenopsis invicta. These photos are taken at 8x zoom.


Edited by AntPhycho, June 5 2019 - 5:12 PM.

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Solenopsis? This ant is way smaller than my Solenopsis xyloni and Solenopsis invicta


Solenopsis vary in size from just 4-5 millimeters, to 8-10 millimeters. Size varies in all ant species.
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#12 Offline gcsnelling - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:13 PM   Best Answer

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S. truncorum is a tiny black species which I collected in my pool many times during late spring and summer in Apple Valley. In addition this queen looks to have a two clubbed antenna which absolutely points to Solenopsis.


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#13 Offline AntPhycho - Posted June 5 2019 - 5:13 PM

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Thanks for the ID gcsnelling!


Edited by AntPhycho, June 5 2019 - 5:16 PM.

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Possibly. I think the head shape is not very Solenopsis-like.

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