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#1 Offline T.C. - Posted April 26 2017 - 2:45 PM

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1. Location of collection: Wisconsin
2. Date of collection: 4/26/17
3. Habitat of collection: Wooded area (just pine trees )
4. Length (from head to gaster): varied in sizes: 1/2 - 1 cm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: pictures show colors clearly.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: N/A
7. Distinguishing behavior: Stands on hind legs and sprays acid from its gaster when disturbed.
8. Nest description: The nest was in both the soil, and in a pine branch.

I have never seen these in my area before. I was rather surprised.








Edited by T.C., April 26 2017 - 3:39 PM.

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#2 Offline Martialis - Posted April 26 2017 - 2:47 PM

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Formica, pallidufulva group?


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#3 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted April 26 2017 - 2:53 PM

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We need clearer pictures of the top of the head, the clypeus (above the mandibles), the gaster, and the mesosoma from the side. Better lighting will mitigate that motion blur.


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#4 Offline brian - Posted April 26 2017 - 3:10 PM

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I really like there coloring. Got to look here in Indiana around more pine trees I guess.
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#5 Offline T.C. - Posted April 26 2017 - 3:39 PM

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Edited the photos.... those any better @batspiderfish?

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#6 Offline Canadian anter - Posted April 26 2017 - 4:18 PM

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some type of parasitic Formica. sanguinea group maybe


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#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted April 26 2017 - 4:32 PM

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Edited the photos.... those any better @batspiderfish?

Thanks

 

Not clear/bright enough, but it is one of the parasitic species of Formica. I am leaning more along the rufa group until we get better pictures.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#8 Offline T.C. - Posted April 26 2017 - 5:48 PM

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Edited the photos.... those any better @batspiderfish?
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Not clear/bright enough, but it is one of the parasitic species of Formica. I am leaning more along the rufa group until we get better pictures.

Them photos are the best my camera will take. I got a friend with a nice one though, maybe I could borrow hers.
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#9 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted April 26 2017 - 7:14 PM

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Edited the photos.... those any better @batspiderfish?
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Not clear/bright enough, but it is one of the parasitic species of Formica. I am leaning more along the rufa group until we get better pictures.

Them photos are the best my camera will take. I got a friend with a nice one though, maybe I could borrow hers.

 

 

If you focused on the clypeus, you may be able to squeeze enough detail out to distinguish which group she is from. DoctorAnt may be able to identify her from these images (which are pretty good) but I am looking for as many details as I can get.


Edited by Batspiderfish, April 26 2017 - 7:16 PM.

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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#10 Offline Martialis - Posted April 27 2017 - 3:30 AM

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Do not take my word for it, but is sanguinea-group possible?


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#11 Offline T.C. - Posted September 15 2017 - 1:05 PM

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I just checked in the area last week where I originally found this colony. I no longer seen it. I was hoping to get better pictures. I lost the two workers I had pinned in our basement flooding.
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#12 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted September 15 2017 - 2:13 PM

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https://www.antweb.o...e=United States

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#13 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 30 2017 - 6:22 PM

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This looks like Formica obsciripes to me. I had a queen before I knew they where parasitic...she died... :boohoo: :*(

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#14 Offline Antsy - Posted November 30 2017 - 7:56 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

#15 Offline T.C. - Posted November 30 2017 - 8:04 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

Far from that.


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#16 Offline Hunter - Posted December 1 2017 - 5:35 AM

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it kinda looks like

Formica exsectoides or Formica rubicunda but I'm new to formica

#17 Offline Antsy - Posted December 1 2017 - 2:45 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

Far from that.
I still think so I’m limited to Texan ants so that’s the closest

#18 Offline Spamdy - Posted December 1 2017 - 2:58 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

Far from that.
I still think so I’m limited to Texan ants so that’s the closest

 

We have over 21 species of Formica in Texas.


All my colonies are dead. 

 

 Except:

  

  Pogonomyrmex barbatus

  Pheidole obscurithorax

  Pheidole morens


#19 Offline Antsy - Posted December 1 2017 - 3:04 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

Far from that.
I still think so I’m limited to Texan ants so that’s the closest
We have over 21 species of Formica in Texas.
Ik and I hate Formica because they are boring to me (NO OFFENSE FORMICA FARMERS)

#20 Offline Antsy - Posted December 1 2017 - 3:05 PM

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Looks somewhat like Aphaenogaster

Far from that.
I still think so I’m limited to Texan ants so that’s the closest
We have over 21 species of Formica in Texas.
Spamdy are u selling ur Pheidole cf. constipata queen




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