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#1 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 23 2017 - 4:44 PM

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So my dwarf hamster recently passed away and I now have an empty tank. Instead of throwing it out, I'm planning on turning it into a vivarium. Once I have decided which species will get to live in it, I will customize it to fit their needs. However, I can't decide which species to keep in it. My candidates are:
1. Formica subsericea
2. Aphaenogaster spp.
3. Lasius niger

Which one of these species would be the best choice? Thank you for your help.

#2 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 23 2017 - 4:46 PM

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I would say Formica subsericea.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#3 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 23 2017 - 4:47 PM

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I believe they are polygenous as well. So you can introduce new queens if you catch any


Also they are a fun option as I believe they make large ant hills and love tunneling.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#4 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 23 2017 - 4:48 PM

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Hmm we'll we'd need to know the size, since Lasius sp. are escape artists and Formica grow massive colonies. I would say Aphaenogaster, because they would be doing all the planting and fertilization of seeds for plants (if you intend to add any) for you.

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#5 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 23 2017 - 4:51 PM

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I think it depends on how big the tank is. If the tank is 20 gallons you should go with Formica.


Also, Apheonagasters don't have socail stomachs which may make them a less fun option


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#6 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 23 2017 - 5:58 PM

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Hmm we'll we'd need to know the size, since Lasius sp. are escape artists and Formica grow massive colonies. I would say Aphaenogaster, because they would be doing all the planting and fertilization of seeds for plants (if you intend to add any) for you.


The tank is about ten gallons. Is that too small?

#7 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 23 2017 - 6:02 PM

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no, you should do formica. keep us updated


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#8 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 23 2017 - 6:22 PM

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Ten gallons should be fine

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#9 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 24 2017 - 5:21 AM

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I agree, Formica would be a good choice. I have observed them nesting in sand and sandy soil. If I make the vivarium with sand or sandy soil, the black ants should stand out against the lighter ground.

#10 Offline VoidElecent - Posted August 24 2017 - 5:33 AM

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I vote Aphaenogaster!



#11 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted August 24 2017 - 5:42 AM

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Aphaenogaster I would go with.

#12 Offline Aquaexploder - Posted August 24 2017 - 6:04 AM

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I also vote Aphaenogaster!

#13 Offline ctantkeeper - Posted August 24 2017 - 6:31 AM

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definitely Aphaeonogaster!!!



#14 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 24 2017 - 6:51 AM

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I believe they are polygenous as well. So you can introduce new queens if you catch any
Also they are a fun option as I believe they make large ant hills and love tunneling.

So I heard that these ants are polygynous about 40% of the time. If I wanted to have a colony with more than one queen, would I mix them during the founding stage, or will a mature colony accept new dealate queen? Or is it possible to fuse two mature colonies?

#15 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 24 2017 - 6:57 AM

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Aphaenogaster I would go with.

I vote Aphaenogaster!

I also vote Aphaenogaster!

definitely Aphaeonogaster!!!


Not that I don't trust you, but I would like to know why you chose Aphaenogaster so that I can use that information in helping me decide. Thanks.

#16 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 24 2017 - 7:15 AM

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I would proably just introduce a queen to a mature colony. The reason why is because if they don't get along the colony would just kill the queen. And not the queen in the mature colony.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#17 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted August 24 2017 - 7:20 AM

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Formica subcericea! You won't regret this species. I keep a colony of Formica pallidifulva in a ten gallon tank and they are awesome.


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I accidentally froze all my ants 


#18 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted August 24 2017 - 10:04 AM

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Aphaenogaster or Formica. Formica ants are peaceful and can coexist with some other organisms, while Aphaenogaster ants have some very interesting foraging habits.


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#19 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 24 2017 - 10:08 AM

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Formica!


Formica are jolty energetic ants which grow into big colonies which would make them great for observing in a 10 gallon tank.


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Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#20 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted August 24 2017 - 10:24 AM

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One thing I forgot to mention: the corners of the tank have rubber strips, as some do. Will either Aphaenogaster or Formica be able to climb out on these? If so, should I take off the rubber or just make sure that the barrier is very strong in that area?




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