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#1 Offline klawfran3 - Posted July 18 2017 - 7:40 AM

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I found this queen walking across my floor last night and put her in a test tube.

Size: Approximately 4mm

Location: Laramie, Wyoming

Weather/Temperature: It's be about 85 or so all week, no rains or cloudy days either.

Color: Black

Distinguishing features: Looks Myrmecine to me, globular gaster and large thorax. Capitate (clubbed) antennae.

Also looking at it more it could be pheidole.

If someone could let me know if she's semiclaustral or claustral in addition to the ID that would be great. pPPYGvO.jpg

 

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#2 Offline ultraex2 - Posted July 18 2017 - 8:13 AM

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The gaster almost seems crematogaster shaped to me - based on the head shape this seems more like a Pheidole than Aphaenogaster queen to me.  I could be wrong, but I think it's a bit early for Aphaenogaster to fly.



#3 Offline klawfran3 - Posted July 18 2017 - 8:19 AM

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The gaster almost seems crematogaster shaped to me - based on the head shape this seems more like a Pheidole than Aphaenogaster queen to me.  I could be wrong, but I think it's a bit early for Aphaenogaster to fly.

I realized that as soon as I posted it. Too bad I can't change thread titles!


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#4 Offline ultraex2 - Posted July 18 2017 - 8:30 AM

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No worries!

 

If you use the full editor does it let you change it?



#5 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted July 18 2017 - 8:43 AM

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You can use the "full editor" on the first post to change the title.


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#6 Offline VoidElecent - Posted July 18 2017 - 9:29 AM

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If it is completely black (a little hard to tell by the pictures), it could be Monomorium sp. The head looks too small compared to the mesosoma to be Pheidole, and I don't think it's not long enough to be Crematogaster or Aphaenogaster. The other option is Solenopsis cf. molesta, but I think it would have at least a couple shades of orange or red thrown in if it were, and it may be slightly longer.


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#7 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted July 18 2017 - 9:43 AM

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Pheidole or monomorium.


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#8 Offline klawfran3 - Posted July 18 2017 - 11:00 AM

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If it is completely black (a little hard to tell by the pictures), it could be Monomorium sp. The head looks too small compared to the mesosoma to be Pheidole, and I don't think it's not long enough to be Crematogaster or Aphaenogaster. The other option is Solenopsis cf. molesta, but I think it would have at least a couple shades of orange or red thrown in if it were, and it may be slightly longer.

I took a better look under righter lighting, it's not 100% black as I though but a very very dark reddish brown.

I don't think it would be monomorium, I've had those before and this one is too big and oddly shaped. I'm leaning towards pheidole, solenopsis doesn't seem to fit as well. The head does look a little larger in real life, I think it's just the angle she's at in the photos.


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#9 Offline VoidElecent - Posted July 18 2017 - 11:10 AM

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If it is completely black (a little hard to tell by the pictures), it could be Monomorium sp. The head looks too small compared to the mesosoma to be Pheidole, and I don't think it's not long enough to be Crematogaster or Aphaenogaster. The other option is Solenopsis cf. molesta, but I think it would have at least a couple shades of orange or red thrown in if it were, and it may be slightly longer.

I took a better look under righter lighting, it's not 100% black as I though but a very very dark reddish brown.

I don't think it would be monomorium, I've had those before and this one is too big and oddly shaped. I'm leaning towards pheidole, solenopsis doesn't seem to fit as well. The head does look a little larger in real life, I think it's just the angle she's at in the photos.

 

 

4mm is very small, even for Pheidole. I would recommend taking some more photos, though. If the head is considerably larger in real life, I might consider Pheidole.



#10 Offline cpman - Posted July 18 2017 - 7:06 PM

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It looks like it has short spines on the mesosoma, which would rule out Monomorium sp.




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