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Difficulty with Ponera queen.


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#1 Offline Ameise - Posted July 3 2017 - 12:07 AM

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I found a tiny Ponera (guessing Ponera pennsylvanica) queen a few days ago. I gave her a small, humid claustral tube which she quickly went into, and attached a tiny outworld with food. For the last few days, she just sat on the wet cotton ball, and today was barely moving. I took her out and gave her sugar water, and she's doing a bit better. I'm not sure what to do, however. Thoughts?

#2 Offline Leo - Posted July 3 2017 - 12:22 AM

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considering they are pretty small, use very small food, place it directly in her test tube



#3 Offline Ameise - Posted July 3 2017 - 12:59 AM

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The thing is... she didn't even leave the cotton ball those three days.



#4 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 3 2017 - 5:55 AM

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Ponera pennsylvanica fly in the fall, so this is probably Hypoponera opacior (depending on your location). Three days is too soon for there to be a problem.


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#5 Offline Ameise - Posted July 3 2017 - 6:09 AM

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I'm not sure what was wrong. She certainly drank the sugar water I gave her. Prior to that, she was mainly just barely moving and even I had difficulty 'agitating her'. She was just latched onto the wet cotton ball.



#6 Offline ultraex2 - Posted July 3 2017 - 6:37 AM

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For semi-claustral queens you have to be really patient.  Just feed her once a week or so and eventually she will lay eggs - granted, it's a different species, but a couple of the semi-claustral Stenamma queens I caught back on 5/13 are just starting to lay eggs/get small larvae.  


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#7 Offline Ameise - Posted July 3 2017 - 8:39 AM

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My concern was that she was really weak. I had to directly feed her sugar water (which she happily drank) until she was moving OK again. Edit: She's actually surprisingly OK with being handled gently. Never seen a queen like that. Also, neither the queen nor the workers can climb glass. They can barely walk on it.

 

The setup was/is a 13mm claustral tube that is attached to a very small bit of PVC tubing (which is the 'outworld'). There is a small hole made of epoxy for her to go in and out of in the claustral tube. So, if I feed her, I just put it in the tube outside. However, she showed no interest in anything but that cotton ball.

 

Oh, ultraex2, if you didn't gather, I found another queen :). They're not very difficult to find, just annoying because without a loupe or macro lens, they look no different from a worker... so I ended up capturing about 20 workers before finding a queen randomly.


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#8 Offline ultraex2 - Posted July 3 2017 - 9:24 AM

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Yep!

 

There are a few colonies of these in my backyard - haven't found a queen yet, though.



#9 Offline Ants4fun - Posted July 3 2017 - 11:37 AM

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They don't walk well on glass or plastic, probably why she is sticking to the cotton ball. I would make a small plaster formicarium or at least add plaster the the bottom of the tube.

#10 Offline Ameise - Posted July 3 2017 - 1:16 PM

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She died overnight, unfortunately. Half of the interior of the glass tube was coated with superglue with a tiny roll of cork on top of it, so she had a surface to walk on.






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