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Ant Id for ant (Possibly new species)


Best Answer VoidElecent , May 11 2017 - 8:53 AM

Myrmosula rutilans.

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#1 Offline opezskiller - Posted May 10 2017 - 8:38 PM

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Title:
1. Collected on top of a hill/mountain found foraging near Formica Moki
2. 5/10/17
 
Body:
1. Ant found in southern california near bush looking in and out of dirt (I can be more specific if needed)

2. Collected 5/9/17 cloudy at around 4:30
3. Sort of desert scrub I don't know how to further explain
4.Too hard to identify the length, but its not very big
5. Orangish red body with black stripes and a couple white spots
6. I don't own a microscope sadly
7. Flutters antennae on the ground when running
 

All of the pictures: http://imgur.com/a/0lkpy



#2 Offline T.C. - Posted May 10 2017 - 8:53 PM

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I'm not gonna, lie.... I have NO idea! It sure is beautiful though! Never seen a species like it?
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#3 Offline BMM - Posted May 10 2017 - 8:57 PM

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It might be the angle of the pictures, but the antennae on this don't look like an ant's. The look rounded, not angled. Maybe some type of flightless wasp?



#4 Offline SirAnticus - Posted May 10 2017 - 8:59 PM

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Batspiderfish could help you out when he is on, but he needs a measurement to help you. I don't even know if that is an ant (notice how the antennae aren't elbowed) 



#5 Offline Runner12 - Posted May 10 2017 - 9:00 PM

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Looks like a wingless wasp to me too

#6 Offline T.C. - Posted May 10 2017 - 9:03 PM

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It might be the angle of the pictures, but the antennae on this don't look like an ant's. The look rounded, not angled. Maybe some type of flightless wasp?


Oh didn't even notice the antannea! I suppose that's what happens when you try to ID something on your phone. And... yeah, I'm not sure what it is now.
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#7 Offline SirAnticus - Posted May 10 2017 - 9:38 PM

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I'm thinking a Pseudomethoca sp. which would make it a velvet ant (wingless wasp), so watch your fingers.



#8 Offline opezskiller - Posted May 10 2017 - 10:30 PM

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I'm thinking a Pseudomethoca sp. which would make it a velvet ant (wingless wasp), so watch your fingers.


I don't think it is what you said because of the fact that the ant is glossy and not hairy. As far as antennae goes they were fluttering

#9 Offline BMM - Posted May 10 2017 - 10:43 PM

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I did a little bit of googling and it looks like this is probably a flightless wasp from the genus Myrmosula.



#10 Offline SirAnticus - Posted May 10 2017 - 11:30 PM

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BMM i think you got it more accurate than me, and Opez not all Pseudmethoca are hairy.


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#11 Offline Licespray - Posted May 11 2017 - 1:18 AM

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There are flightless wasps??? That is so cool! Learn something new every day.



#12 Offline Serafine - Posted May 11 2017 - 1:45 AM

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Essentially all ants are flightless (social) wasps.

Also there are a lot more solitary wasp species than there are social wasp species.

 

There's also a few species of wingless flies on some islands.


Edited by Serafine, May 11 2017 - 1:46 AM.

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#13 Offline Spamdy - Posted May 11 2017 - 5:06 AM

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I caught a velvet ant a week ago lol

All my colonies are dead. 

 

 Except:

  

  Pogonomyrmex barbatus

  Pheidole obscurithorax

  Pheidole morens


#14 Offline opezskiller - Posted May 11 2017 - 6:32 AM

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I caught a velvet ant a week ago lol

Me too not knowing what it was lol

BMM i think you got it more accurate than me, and Opez not all Pseudmethoca are hairy.

*Kills Himself* hey at least I got a Formica moki queen

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#15 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 11 2017 - 8:53 AM   Best Answer

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Myrmosula rutilans.



#16 Offline XZero38 - Posted May 11 2017 - 9:04 AM

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so not an ant?



#17 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted May 11 2017 - 9:09 AM

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I've found  2 velvet ants in my time of anting. I was inexperienced at the time, and the first one I saw as what I thought was a queen ant, so I put it into a test tube and everything. :P

 

It almost ended badly. 



#18 Offline sgheaton - Posted May 11 2017 - 9:12 AM

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It's lookin' like a red version of that green/black sweat bee I caught awhile back.


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#19 Offline T.C. - Posted May 11 2017 - 9:41 AM

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so not an ant?


Just looked at it on my desktop for better viewing, it not an ant! :(
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#20 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted May 11 2017 - 12:30 PM

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Myrmosula rutilans.

 I think this is actually Pseudomethoca bequaerti






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